Indiana vs. Harvard- Sunday 11/26 @ 4:30 PM on BTN

[Stuhoo 81,304]

FIVE AND ONE BAYBEEEEEEE!!!!

[pappy1865 2,212]

After doing Shrine stuff for 8 days, should have posted the fundraiser here....... Coach Woodson defending MM as a freshman. Yup. He sure is. A 5 star freshman. Meanwhile, Stanford trots out a 3 star freshman. 3. Star. And he has 947 points.. My reason for not flowing recruiting? Right here. MM played a great game. Flashes of things to come.

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[pappy1865 2,212]

When will the Hoosier 3/4/5 star talent step up to a 3 star guard?

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[AZ Hoosier 7,371]

I still can't shake the feeling, but it felt like we hit more 3s than we did. I guess I need to watch it again.

The refs changed at least three of them to 2s after review.

[RaceToTheTop 26,089]

7 hours ago, pappy1865 said:

After doing Shrine stuff for 8 days, should have posted the fundraiser here....... Coach Woodson defending MM as a freshman. Yup. He sure is. A 5 star freshman. Meanwhile, Stanford trots out a 3 star freshman. 3. Star. And he has 947 points.. My reason for not flowing recruiting? Right here. MM played a great game. Flashes of things to come.

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Stanford?

[bigrod 2,871]

8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

FIVE AND ONE BAYBEEEEEEE!!!!

Yeah, that's the thing with this team. They're not playing great, but at least they are still winning. I had a bad feeling about this game coming into it, but they managed to pull out the win. Not sure this is sustainable going into conference play though.

[LamarCheeks 19,119]

7 hours ago, pappy1865 said:

After doing Shrine stuff for 8 days, should have posted the fundraiser here....... Coach Woodson defending MM as a freshman. Yup. He sure is. A 5 star freshman. Meanwhile, Stanford trots out a 3 star freshman. 3. Star. And he has 947 points.. My reason for not flowing recruiting? Right here. MM played a great game. Flashes of things to come.

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A Stanford 3-star freshman has 947 points? Huh? So, he’s averaging 135 points a game? I think that’s gotta be some kind of record.

[DChoosier 8,586]

8 hours ago, pappy1865 said:

When will the Hoosier 3/4/5 star talent step up to a 3 star guard?

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Our 4/5 star bigs (Ware, MM, Malik) played well. Unfortunately we are not exceptionally talented at the 1 or 2.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,976]

Earlier I read that Sheehey and someone else both had games shooting 9-9 FG.

[Chris007 44,154]

I'm a Gunn fan and not so much Leal but I think it is safe to say either being on the floor too long your defense is going to suffer. Gunn loses his man way too much. Which usually ends up being an open 3. Leal gives up straight-line drives to the basket. Gunn is quicker, Leal cheers better. Neither need to play more than 5 minutes

[reconmkd 4,409]

While watching, it was obvious that Gunn didn't play much, but did I miss something as to why? (I know the existing issues, but was something else up? Sick, injured?) D@mn I need to watch it again, things are still fuzzy for some reason.

[MikeRoberts 7,051]

10 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

While watching, it was obvious that Gunn didn't play much, but did I miss something as to why? (I know the existing issues, but was something else up? Sick, injured?) D@mn I need to watch it again, things are still fuzzy for some reason.

Not sure that anything happened other than it has been very obvious that while Gunn can use his athleticism to guard someone 1 v 1, when that same player is moving off the ball he loses them. While he can get out in a fast break on offense, he is the worst shooter on the team.

he has moments that make some excited but they are few and far between. Maybe he gets there later in the year or in future years but he is not ready to contribute big to a winning team.

[Chris007 44,154]

1 hour ago, reconmkd said:

While watching, it was obvious that Gunn didn't play much, but did I miss something as to why? (I know the existing issues, but was something else up? Sick, injured?) D@mn I need to watch it again, things are still fuzzy for some reason.

As soon as he got in he lost his man, ran to double-team another guy, and left his guy for a wide-open 3 which of course he hit. I think the staff is losing its patience with this kind of stuff. I think it showed he wasn't ready to play. 

[Artie86 1,976]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Earlier I read that Sheehey and someone else both had games shooting 9-9 FG.

Man, I loved his enthusiasm on that play! He seems to be getting more and more aggressive each game.....

[reconmkd 4,409]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As soon as he got in he lost his man, ran to double-team another guy, and left his guy for a wide-open 3 which of course he hit. I think the staff is losing its patience with this kind of stuff. I think it showed he wasn't ready to play. 

I am rewatching it now and noticed that as well. Wojcik blew right passed him. Then the wide open 3 with Gunn standing around like who's guy (It doesn't matter who, if you aren't guarding someone, its your guy), then a turnover, and...the long 2 and a TO. Woody immediately pulled him.

[HoosierHoopster 7,102]

6 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

Man, I loved his enthusiasm on that play! He seems to be getting more and more aggressive each game.....

We were hopeful but weren't sure what player we were getting in Ware. We know now. He's outstanding, our best player, he -- presumably with staff's help -- found his hustle and focus. NBA first-rounder (as was originally assumed) for sure, we're lucky to have him.

[reconmkd 4,409]

Just saw the play were X possibly aggravated his left ankle/foot. It was the NBA continuation play and he elevated off that foot. No twisting or rolling, maybe just re-aggravated the previous injury, maybe could be more of a high ankle sprain? Hopefully it is nothing and he is ready to go Friday. As much as X can get under my skin at times, we absolutely need him through the next 4 games.

[go iu bb 6,230]

35 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As soon as he got in he lost his man, ran to double-team another guy, and left his guy for a wide-open 3 which of course he hit. I think the staff is losing its patience with this kind of stuff. I think it showed he wasn't ready to play. 

Cupps did the same thing but he still helps the team more than Gunn. Plus, Gunn is a sophomore in his second season under Woodson so he should know better.

[DChoosier 8,586]

27 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

We were hopeful but weren't sure what player we were getting in Ware. We know now. He's outstanding, our best player, he -- presumably with staff's help -- found his hustle and focus. NBA first-rounder (as was originally assumed) for sure, we're lucky to have him.

Due to Wares freshman year in Oregon I was a little skeptical reading some of the more optimistic posts about what he would do here but so far he has exceeded even the most optimistic posts.  
We will see how he does against the rigors of the BT big men and style of play. I’m not saying he won’t succeed but just saying that what he faces on the court is about to change rather dramatically.

[reconmkd 4,409]

16 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Due to Wares freshman year in Oregon I was a little skeptical reading some of the more optimistic posts about what he would do here but so far he has exceeded even the most optimistic posts.  
We will see how he does against the rigors of the BT big men and style of play. I’m not saying he won’t succeed but just saying that what he faces on the court is about to change rather dramatically.

IMO if Mack can build off of last nights performance and keep the offense up, it will really open the floor for Ware in B1G matchups creating a nightmare for opposing bigs having to guard Ware in space. I think that his ability to face up and shoot jump shots in people's faces will be a huge factor for us. How do you guard a 7 footer that can back you down in the post with those pretty over the shoulder floaters/hook shots or square up and knock shots down from about any distance? If you double him, there is MR or hopefully a shot making MM and Ware seems to be pretty decent passing the ball as well. One of our biggest issues in the UConn game was they basically collapsed to the paint, giving our bigs little to no room to operate and dared us to shoot.

With our front court, if only we could depend on at least 1 guard per game to give us something, I think we become a problem in the B1G. A lot of ifs, but it is definitely there as a possibility!