* Empire Classic * Indiana vs. UCONN Sunday 11/19/2023 1 pm ESPN @MSG

[DChoosier 9,303]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yeah, I don’t get it.  Woodson has coached at the highest level and been around basketball his whole life.  We have 5 stars and talent.  We don’t have any shooters but that was by our staff’s design.  We just aren’t even contenders.   I am not sure what it will take.  Shooters would help.  Modern basketball would help. Good basketball IQ would help. And if this game didn’t prove it to anyone, Reneau is our most important and likely best player.  He plays hard.  We need a few guard versions of him. 

That absolutely was NOT the “staffs design”. They tried like hell to get shooters and thought they got one in MM.  Were  they successful in getting shooters? No they weren’t but it’s ridiculous to think that was their plan.

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,082]

Kids played hard. Can’t fault that.  Just terrible shooting and some bad decision making.  It’s just sad how far off we are from being a legit contender.  

[Whoozhers 3,764]

13 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

MM is looking very disappointing. Nothing about him says 5-star talent. 

Maybe he hasn’t recovered from thinking Taco Bell was a Mexican phone company….

[Hoosier DaDa 3,559]

15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

MM is looking very disappointing. Nothing about him says 5-star talent. 

I thought Landers was a bad 5 star… I think MM is worse.

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,082]

1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

That absolutely was NOT the “staffs design”. They tried like hell to get shooters and thought they got one in MM.  Were  they successful in getting shooters? No they weren’t but it’s ridiculous to think that was their plan.

Everyone knew we needed a shooting guard that can actually shoot. This board talked about it ad nauseum.   We have a open roster spot that went unused because they wanted to give Galloway and Gunn the opportunity. Truth is, we aren’t good enough at the 1,2 or 3.  I’ll put our 4 and 5 against anyone. 

[Golfman25 6,308]

Sorry to say it, but only one kid came to play today. Our “seniors” suck.  This is a game they have to lead.  Instead they pooped their diapers.   

[Napleshoosier 10,694]

Wow.  ..that was an asswhoopin!  on the bright side just think what a beast Malik will be after another year in the gym.  Beastie mode!
 

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,082]

3 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

Wow.  ..that was an asswhoopin!  on the bright side just think what a beast Malik will be after another year in the gym.  Beastie mode!
 

 

He’s so good.  I do think he will be back.  MgTaco will likely have a decision to make.  Ware will do enough to leave.  Rebuild the roster next year, with likely similar expectations.   Cupps can’t be our starting 1 on next years team if we are trying to win it all.  

[Alford Bailey 12,859]

Our guard play absolutely sucks. X is hit and miss, Galloway is a sixth man and the CJ Gunn experiment didn’t work. Apparently the whole team doesn’t rebound? I’ve been glass half full under Woody but this season is gonna be tough.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,092]

11 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

That absolutely was NOT the “staffs design”. They tried like hell to get shooters and thought they got one in MM.  Were  they successful in getting shooters? No they weren’t but it’s ridiculous to think that was their plan.

They did get one in MM. Woody just doesn't know how to teach an offense that gets shooters open. It's basically just hoping and praying someone gets open at some point.

[Trish 13,003]

I only got to watch the first half. But looking at the box score, it’s very gross how we can only shoot 13’s along with 6 assists. Is Woodson stuck on coaching basketball in 2013? 
 

Nonetheless, it’s only November. Plenty of basketball left, but there’s not much positives to see from the games we’ve seen outside of Gabe and Ware. 

[tkbbn 533]

Gabe didn't look good at all today. Really like him but was terrible today unfortunately. 

[Hoosierfan2017 23,851]

Woodson is an improvement over Archie (would be hard not to be), but he’s not elite. And he doesn’t recruit at a high enough level to the point that he wouldn’t need to be elite, a la Calipari. So this is what we get. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,092]

It is without a doubt... The Big Ten is REALLY BAD.

[NashvilleHoosier 3,842]

Marquee OOC matchups we have scheduled ourselves the last 2 seasons:

Arizona: -14

@ Kansas: -22

UConn: -20

Auburn: TBD

Kansas: TBD

Totals to date: -56

I think we can get to -100!! Im glad we are scheduling these. It’s step 1. But damn we are not proving that we deserve to be playing in these games.

[LamarCheeks 21,202]

33 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Why is anyone surprised by this rout? We are a bad team. Maybe the sunshine pumpers will finally realize that in Woodson’s 3rd year we ain’t looking good.

Not sure anybody is surprised. 

Disppointed? Yes. 

Surprised? No. 

[DChoosier 9,303]

18 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Everyone knew we needed a shooting guard that can actually shoot. This board talked about it ad nauseum.   We have a open roster spot that went unused because they wanted to give Galloway and Gunn the opportunity. Truth is, we aren’t good enough at the 1,2 or 3.  I’ll put our 4 and 5 against anyone. 

The board did indeed endlessly discuss the need for a shooter (but yet  I got shot down for suggesting I wanted a three way 2G with TG coming off the bench)

I agree that we aren’t good enough at the 1,2,3 but there is NO WAY they left an open roster spot to give TG and Gunn the opportunity.  No way  that was the staffs intentional strategy. The coaches went hard after a number of shooters and thought for sure they were getting Kencht, as an example. Unfortunately he went to TN and is averaging. 19.7 per game @54% from the field.

[go iu bb 8,023]

Thoroughly outclassed. The stat sheet is as ugly as the final score.

[sweetpain 573]

Can't we hire a coach specifically to run the offense or is Woody too proud? Other schools do it, Michigan comes to mind.

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[mamasa 15,806]

2 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

Everyone be sure to let us all know when you’re leaving the game thread. I’m keeping attendance!

@Hovadipo- leaving the game thread now!