Indiana Players Now In The Portal

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

2 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

They had some business at this level. They just needed someone to develop them. 

We hear that argument every year and these guys transfer to a lower level and still aren’t very good. Let’s quit giving these players a pass. They just aren’t good enough.

[Ghost of Rick Majerus 817]

6 minutes ago, SamIam said:

No, everyone in the country is now eligible immediately no matter how many times they have transferred in the past. 

I guess I totally missed that. Shows how much I've paid attention. Thank you!

[Golfman25 5,002]

5 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

We hear that argument every year and these guys transfer to a lower level and still aren’t very good. Let’s quit giving these players a pass. They just aren’t good enough.

Some work to get better.  Some do not.  Some coaches are better at pushing their players to improve.  Some are not.  

If Gunn finds a coach to calm him down, play under control and shoot on balance, he'll be fine.  

[realTomCrean 1,505]

Would be great to see Gunn end up at Butler

[Hornsby 1,651]

3 guys who have no business at this level so they should transfer 

Sparks was actually ranked a top 100 transfer portal player. Basically the portal is slim pickings for true impact players like ware. Most portal guys are nothing special.

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[str8baller 5,040]

13 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

We hear that argument every year and these guys transfer to a lower level and still aren’t very good. Let’s quit giving these players a pass. They just aren’t good enough.

Lander went to a lower level and contributes, at least, on a team that made the tourney. Sparks averaged about 13 and 9 at BSU. Al Durham went and had a nice career at Providence. Franklin continued a solid career at Virginia. Bates is debatable but definitely showed he could score at this level this past year.   
 

Some of it is misidentifying talent but it’s annoying we can’t coax a little more production out of these guys. 

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2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Lander went to a lower level and contributes, at least, on a team that made the tourney. Sparks averaged about 13 and BSU. Al Durham went and had a nice career at Providence. Franklin continued a solid career at Virginia. Bates is debatable but definitely showed he could score at this level this past year.   
 

Some of it is misidentifying talent but it’s annoying we can’t coax a little more production out of these guys. 

Agree…except on Lander.  He’s a fourth year player at a mid major who is a 9 point scorer and whose skill is shooting and he’s just an okay shooter.  He wasn’t a P5 player.

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

4 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Lander went to a lower level and contributes, at least, on a team that made the tourney. Sparks averaged about 13 and 9 at BSU. Al Durham went and had a nice career at Providence. Franklin continued a solid career at Virginia. Bates is debatable but definitely showed he could score at this level this past year.   
 

Some of it is misidentifying talent but it’s annoying we can’t coax a little more production out of these guys. 

Franklin was the only guy who transferred to another top tier program and maintained or got better. He’s probably the only transfer in the last 10 years that I considered a loss.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,607]

24 minutes ago, Ghost of Rick Majerus said:

I guess I totally missed that. Shows how much I've paid attention. Thank you!

The US judicial system basically told the NCAA, "you're not allowed to have rules."

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11 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Franklin was the only guy who transferred to another top tier program and maintained or got better. He’s probably the only transfer in the last 10 years that I considered a loss.

Bates did get better.  Still doesn't play defense, but he sure as heck shot the ball better at the train wreck that is Missouri.  Wouldn't call it a top tier program AT ALL but they did play top tier competition.

[RoncalliHoosier 409]

39 minutes ago, str8baller said:

If Banks lands in the right situation i could see him being a contributor for a decent team. 

Absolutely. And if it's a B1G team, Banks is the kind of kid that can come back and torch us for 25.

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5 minutes ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

Absolutely. And if it's a B1G team, Banks is the kind of kid that can come back and torch us for 25.

Banks = Jordan Geronimo, IMO.  I liked their potential as freshman and then by the middle of their sophomore year just seemed to be high level athletic ability with low level skill.  I would be surprised if he's ever a quality P5 starter.

[realTomCrean 1,505]

Am I the only one who thinks Javon Small is a perfect fit for Indiana? 

[Rico 2,986]

1 hour ago, realTomCrean said:

Would be great to see Gunn end up at Butler

Why?  Prefer he go to Purdue..........Fort Wayne.

[IndianaSconnie90 101]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

Some work to get better.  Some do not.  Some coaches are better at pushing their players to improve.  Some are not.  

If Gunn finds a coach to calm him down, play under control and shoot on balance, he'll be fine.  

No, he's just not that great when there's something on the line. Can't teach that

[Home Jersey 6,582]

Good luck to these 3, hope they do well at their next stops. No info, just guessing for craps and cackles: 

Sparks - I'd like to see him back at BSU, get 1st team all conference and have fun playing ball again. 

Banks - I think he goes closer to home, no idea what his market will be. Best case for him, UGA/GA Tech, probably more likely a GA St. or similar profile school. 

Gunn - Not sure what his market will be either. I could see a best case for him of DePaul (Holtmann saw him plenty and I'm sure will need to land bodies) or Missouri maybe (follow in Tamar's footsteps?) ... Maybe more likely at a UT Martin or other OVC kind of school. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,607]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Good luck to these 3, hope they do well at their next stops. No info, just guessing for craps and cackles: 

Sparks - I'd like to see him back at BSU, get 1st team all conference and have fun playing ball again. 

Banks - I think he goes closer to home, no idea what his market will be. Best case for him, UGA/GA Tech, probably more likely a GA St. or similar profile school. 

Gunn - Not sure what his market will be either. I could see a best case for him of DePaul (Holtmann saw him plenty and I'm sure will need to land bodies) or Missouri maybe (follow in Tamar's footsteps?) ... Maybe more likely at a UT Martin or other OVC kind of school. 

IUPUI is going to have plenty of open spots.

[Home Jersey 6,582]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

IUPUI is going to have plenty of open spots.

Would be a natural fit!

[AZ Hoosier 6,543]

The US judicial system basically told the NCAA, "you're not allowed to have rules."

It’s ok. The NCAA always chose when to enforce them and when to look the other way. At least there’s a relatively level playing field now.

[Iu1973 11]

2 hours ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

Absolutely. And if it's a B1G team, Banks is the kind of kid that can come back and torch us for 25.

Banks will never score 25 in a game.  He can’t shoot and fouls too much.