coonhounds Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 I found a article on xavier foul trouble at Pitt and it was interesting. I am sure most of you read it when x was portaliing here lol. Wish I was tech enough to share it here. Basically it sounds like his coach was trying desperately to change xs behavior but couldn't lol. Sounds familiar Sent from my SM-A326U using Tapatalk
TTT Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Hornsby said: Lol but give Woodson a week to prepare for illinois and look out. Now he may be golfing with quinn for a few days' first before we practice. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk And if I read closely for coach and whole coaching staff that pretty much sums up how it shows in play and even in enthusiasm of pre and post game interviews.
Scotty R Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 50 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: They must have moved him. He was doing the mornings. You get my overall point though. The morning guys would have hit us for it. Jake would hit us for it from 12-3. Then JMV would hop on and hit us for it from 3-6. It would have been a solid day of the takes we are seeing on these boards being aired out the day after the loss. I think a few days in between will soften the takes a bit. They made the change in August IUCrazy2 1
Home Jersey Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 You don't quite get this tone from Woody. I'm sure he cares, but man... https://www.tiktok.com/@fieldof68/video/7323727814711184682
Hoosier987 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 Just now, Home Jersey said: You don't quite get this tone from our staff https://www.tiktok.com/@fieldof68/video/7323727814711184682 The Staff is low energy / looks uninterested and it reflects in our play. GoIU8, TTT and Home Jersey 3
Home Jersey Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said: The Staff is low energy / looks uninterested and it reflects in our play. Well said.
TTT Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 11 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: The Staff is low energy / looks uninterested and it reflects in our play. Coach and staff made it into IU basketball kingdom and are enjoying status and financial rewards but lacking in ability and know how including commitment to work and hard decision making to run a basketball program on this level to meet required standards.
bigrod Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 As I've said before on here, I've been an IU basketball fan since I was about 15 years old, in the early 80's. I think with every new coach, there's that period of excitement and hope, and it just eventually gets crushed. How can we spend so much money on coaches, recruiting, and now NIL and still never get over the mediocre hump? It's frustrating, and with every new coach, the patience just gets thinner and thinner. At the end of the Archie era, I was pretty ambivalent about IU basketball. It has come even sooner than Woody. We have NIL money, recruiting money to go anywhere we want, and yet still cannot put together a roster that includes any kind of consistent shooters. How can our roster construction be this poor? St. John's is considered a likely tournament team, and here we are floundering around hoping to crack the top 100. I know Woodson talks about getting IU back, but it seems like he either doesn't have the energy left in the tank, or just simply doesn't know how to get there. Simply saying we have to work harder is not a solution. What about working smarter? What about coming up with concepts that actually work in college basketball? He refuses to run plays to actually put his players in positions to succeed because that's not the way its done in the league. Supposedly, everyone is working harder, but the results remain the same. The players don't need to know what to do, they need to know how to get there.
Trish Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 So Indiana is leading the nation in flagrant fouls? Under Mike Woodson’s leadership? Great job Coach! Kentuckysucks and GoIU8 2
TTT Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 3 minutes ago, bigrod said: As I've said before on here, I've been an IU basketball fan since I was about 15 years old, in the early 80's. I think with every new coach, there's that period of excitement and hope, and it just eventually gets crushed. How can we spend so much money on coaches, recruiting, and now NIL and still never get over the mediocre hump? It's frustrating, and with every new coach, the patience just gets thinner and thinner. At the end of the Archie era, I was pretty ambivalent about IU basketball. It has come even sooner than Woody. We have NIL money, recruiting money to go anywhere we want, and yet still cannot put together a roster that includes any kind of consistent shooters. How can our roster construction be this poor? St. John's is considered a likely tournament team, and here we are floundering around hoping to crack the top 100. I know Woodson talks about getting IU back, but it seems like he either doesn't have the energy left in the tank, or just simply doesn't know how to get there. Simply saying we have to work harder is not a solution. What about working smarter? What about coming up with concepts that actually work in college basketball? He refuses to run plays to actually put his players in positions to succeed because that's not the way its done in the league. Supposedly, everyone is working harder, but the results remain the same. The players don't need to know what to do, they need to know how to get there. Since the Frank Radovich days for me. Both, lack of energy and know how and that includes the coaching staff assembled.
monskisprodigy Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, Trish said: So Indiana is leading the nation in flagrant fouls? Under Mike Woodson’s leadership? Great job Coach! How many of those were hook and holds? Not saying that makes it better, I just despise that rule. Ngw7183 and BannerVille 2
coonhounds Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 How many of those were hook and holds? Not saying that makes it better, I just despise that rule. Not enough for it to be acceptable lol. The last three were notSent from my SM-A326U using Tapatalk
monskisprodigy Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 1 minute ago, coonhounds said: Not enough for it to be acceptable lol. The last three were not Sent from my SM-A326U using Tapatalk Not saying it’s an area you want to be a leader in haha.
Scotty R Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 21 minutes ago, Trish said: So Indiana is leading the nation in flagrant fouls? Under Mike Woodson’s leadership? Great job Coach! At least we are leading the nation in something HoosierHoopster 1
IndyResident16 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said: Riiiight, glad he fits your continuing narrative…. You find the state of the program acceptable? Lol, do you then. It’s embarrassing.
IUCrazy2 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 3 minutes ago, Scotty R said: At least we are leading the nation in something We're #1! We're #1! We're #1!
Hoosierfan2017 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 5 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said: You find the state of the program acceptable? Lol, do you then. It’s embarrassing. Honestly, at some point it stops being “the state of the program” and just becomes “the program.” Maybe we’re approaching that point. 11 tournaments in the past 22 seasons. tkbbn, monskisprodigy and IUCrazy2 2 1
IndyResident16 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Honestly, at some point it stops being “the state of the program” and just becomes “the program.” Maybe we’re approaching that point. 11 tournaments in the past 22 seasons. Totally fair. And I would agree with you. We really are just another basketball program these days (Dakich’s words verbatim). But Dakich said it so it can’t be true lol. Some people are so soft.
Ryno6284 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 11 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Honestly, at some point it stops being “the state of the program” and just becomes “the program.” Maybe we’re approaching that point. 11 tournaments in the past 22 seasons. And that is sad! Growing up I didn't worry about making the tourney. I knew we would be in, it was just where are we going to play and who are we playing? Selection Sunday was must watch! tkbbn 1
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 [mention=9180]Scotty R[/mention] was this your email to the admin? I kid…lol. This guy went on quite the email. Apparently posted on a different board. To whom It May Concern: My name is Dr. Douglas J. Wilson. I am a two time IU alum and a season ticket holder in both football and basketball. I have been a donor of IU athletics for over 20 years. I am seriously considering severing all ties with my once beloved university. The pride I use to feel as an IU alumni and supporter of the university is gone. I am embarrassed by both the lack of committment and the tolerance of mediocrity to IU athletics by the IU administration. The neglect, mismangement of funds, direct siphoning of funds from the Big Ten tv contract, and the total ignorance of IU athletics over the past 20 years is unacceptable. Specifically, the IU football and basketball programs. The survey of possible football upgrades and what I would be willing to pay for those upgrades has not set well with me. Why would I spend more money and donate more for continued mediocrity. If IU does not want to commit to athletics both financially and administrative support wise then why should I spend anymore money on IU or IU athletics? The contract extension and huge buyout on Tom Allen's contract was a very poor decision. The firing of coach Archie Miller was welcomed by most alumni. But after an extensive search IU hires Mike Woodson. Mike seems to be a nice guy but here are the facts. He had been coaching in the NBA for 35+ years. He was an assistant coach and was a very mediocre head coach. He had not coached in the college game ever. Had he not played at IU he would have never been considered. No other division 1 program would have even considered him as a candidate for the head coach position. But alas, IU did so I tried to support him but its been an abysmal failure. Let's look at the results and where the IU bb program stands 2.75 year later. His roster construction should be a fireable offense. Everyone knows IU needed shooters in the spring. But IU not only didn't land any guards, but Mike chose to enter the season with an unused scholarship. That is neglect of duty and should be a fireable offense. He has failed to land any high school kids, let alone quality shooters in over 2 years, until Liam this year. He appears to hate recruiting and lets the assistants do all the legwork. He chose to have an elective knee procedure during an active recruiting cycle. Thus, he cancelled some visits with recruits and then they chose to go elsewhere. That surgery was elective and could have been done during a dead recruiting period. That is neglect and should be a fireable offense. He runs a slow plodding, pound the ball down load offense. This was a good offense in the 1970's and maybe even the 1980's. But it is 2023. The 3 point shot has changed the college game. In today's game the 3 point shot has to be a major focal point of your offense and Mike has totally ignored that in almost 3 years as a coach. He continues to use NBA type substitutions where you pull all 5 starters and go with a second unit. This isn't the NBA. It's college basketball. 3 starters must be on the floor at all times. There are many games to date where IU had an 8-10 point lead, he pulls 4-5 starters and 5 minutes later we are down by 10 and then we never recover. Everyone knows that except Mike. In addition he appears to be a very low energy and uninspired guy. Our teams reflect that. We seem to be low energy, uninspired, uninterested team. We are very undisciplined. It appears the team is uninspired, lacks motivation, and uninterested in the games. They often look like a team that doesn't care if they win or lose. Since he has been here here we had half the team sneak out of the hotel the night before the Northwestern game, a player caught speeding and going 90 mph up walnut, then when stopped by police tried to change seats with a passenger, we have a player who got in a dispute at Taco Bell because he refused to leave, we have a player that has received multiple technicals, and now three straight game with a flagrant foul and 2 out of the last 3 games a player was ejected for a flagrant 2 foul. There appears to be no accountability and no repercussions. I AM embarrased by our IU bb team. So too is Don Fischer apparently. Does the IU administration even care? It's time to pull the plug on this terrible Mike Woodson experiment. He is too old, too stubborn, too far removed from playing in college to understand how the college game is played. In todays NIL era it's time for IU to dump their holier then thou atttitude and do what's right. Either terminate iis athletic department and stop pretending it cares about athletics OR do what is right and hire the best candidate for the job. IU should be able to spend $10 million/year on its head BB coach. Use that money to get one of Scott Drew, Billy Donovan, or Chris Beard. Or spend $7 million a year on either Dusty May or Porter Moser. I would love to discuss this further with anyone from the IU Administration. Sincerely, Douglas J. Wilson, O.D. IU grad 1993 & 1997Great letterSent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk
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