*RANT HERE*

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Ummm... Yes. It's not a "you suck, get out" conversation. It's "hey, if the next guy is there for the taking, we are going to need you to understand if moves are made. We need you to put university and this program above yourself." It should have been made clear whether it be 3, 4, 5 or 6 years. Woody was here to stabilize and connect past/present. That's it. Anything more is great but that's why he was brought in. But Indiana can't be thinking short term of 1 or two years down the road, they need to be thinking 5+ down the road. Indiana has screwed themselves on "being the nice guy" in this century too many times. No way Pitino didn't have interest in the job but nope, gotta stick with Davis. Sampson? Nah just throw yourself into the abyss, no need for any help. We were bad so we will jump. Crean? Should have been fired after year 3 and hired Stevens. Archie? Probably should have been fired after year 2 or 3. But Indiana loves being nice and mediocre.

Archie should have been gone after year 2. It was obvious he was in over his head

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58 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

May didn't have D. Wade to ride the team to the FF. May actually had to coach a bunch of kids that aren't lottery picks. 

Also back then the college game was far better than it is today. To me it is easier for mid major to do well in the tournament today than it was back then. Dusty would be the top of my list when we have an opening but he is no guarantee either 

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34 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Well if we hired Beard, we'd all be happy win ing while you had your pity party.

No way Beard should ever be the coach here. There are things way more important than jan your team winning a game

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8 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

If he is an interm coach why would he be adverse to stepping aside after three years?

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Woodson isn't an interim coach SMH

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7 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Also back then the college game was far better than it is today

Interesting I never knew you felt that way lol.  

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Have your convo in this thread, but IMO absent a health issue for Coach, this is utterly unimaginable and ungrounded in reality.

Dolson:  “Woody, we soooo appreciate you but we want you to consider taking an emeritus role.”

Woody: “F you. After all I’ve put into this journey that’s how you’re treating me?

F YOU!”

 

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Interesting I never knew you felt that way lol.  

A lot t if the games today are almost unwatchable with the style of play

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Just now, Scotty R said:

A lot t if the games today are almost unwatchable with the style of play

Or?

The style of play has evolved and is more effective than what it replaced. Because coaches are smart, desperately want to win, and utilize the best systems available.

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Or?

The style of play has evolved and is more effective than what it replaced. Because coaches are smart, desperately want to win, and utilize the best systems available.

That is funny because it hasn't evolved and not how basketball was meant to be played. It is about player movement and ball movement and not seeing one guy dribble the air out of the ball. Also with analytics it is taking half Court out of the game.

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13 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Also back then the college game was far better than it is today. To me it is easier for mid major to do well in the tournament today than it was back then. Dusty would be the top of my list when we have an opening but he is no guarantee either 

He's definitely not a guarantee. In fact it's closer to a cinch that he'd turn to crap if he came to IU. Our administration has that effect on folks. 

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4 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

A lot t if the games today are almost unwatchable with the style of play

It was a joke.  I knew you hated today game compared to the old days.   Sound like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite every time you talk about it 

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50 minutes ago, str8baller said:

What about Andy Enfeild’s run at FGCU? We might be able to pry him from USC.  
 

Or shaka Smart who elevated  that VCU program. We could outbid Marquette…we know that for a fact. Same with Porter Moser. 
 

Brian Dutcher at SDSU? 
 

Thad Matta? 
 

Frank Martin?   
 

There’s a lot of guys who built smaller programs and made a run. We could have our pick of a few, if we want to get guys successful at non-P5 schools. 
 

 

Sure.  I'd probably take everybody on that list before Crean or Archie, which was the point I originally responded to.

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12 hours ago, Scotty R said:

A lot t if the games today are almost unwatchable with the style of play

Please tell us more.

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7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Have your convo in this thread, but IMO absent a health issue for Coach, this is utterly unimaginable and ungrounded in reality.

Dolson:  “Woody, we soooo appreciate you but we want you to consider taking an emeritus role.”

Woody: “F you. After all I’ve put into this journey that’s how you’re treating me?

F YOU!”

 

It's a business not a charity.  The Colts had no problem throwing away an aging Peyton Manning, the best player in franchise history, for what they thought was the next Peyton.   We could easily have the next Brad Stevens here and our current coach is 66 and pretty mediocre.   The fact that this is even a discussion just shows me how lost we are as a program. 

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10 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Woodson isn't an interim coach SMH

At Woodson's age if Dolson expected a long term solution then he's a buffoon. Woodson is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, unless Dolson is just completely incompetent he has a plan that isn't just seeing how long the guy in his 60s lasts.

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5 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

That is funny because it hasn't evolved and not how basketball was meant to be played. It is about player movement and ball movement and not seeing one guy dribble the air out of the ball. Also with analytics it is taking half Court out of the game.

You're right. Basketball was originally meant to be played was without any dribbling at all.

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7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

It was a joke.  I knew you hated today game compared to the old days.   Sound like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite every time you talk about it 

I know and I will take har college basketball over no college basketball. I just think the basic fundamentals has gone down and I blame some of it on teams having no continuity because of all the transfers

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7 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

It's a business not a charity.  The Colts had no problem throwing away an aging Peyton Manning, the best player in franchise history, for what they thought was the next Peyton.   We could easily have the next Brad Stevens here and our current coach is 66 and pretty mediocre.   The fact that this is even a discussion just shows me how lost we are as a program. 

Well if Woodson has 3 surgeries on his neck then yes replace him.

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This whole conversation is silly. Does Dolson have a plan? He better, but we will never know it or get a whiff of it, until after it's executed at least. People wanting to cut ties with Woody ASAP to avoid the risk of May being hired elsewhere are the ones who actually are "lost" or have the "losers mentality" ... how desperate can one possibly be? To let the terms of your next hire be totally dictated to you by circumstances that have nothing to do with you. That's pathetic and sad IMO. May looks great, maybe after next year it's worth entertaining that conversation with Woody. But you don't expedite that conversation just because May could sign elsewhere. It's not like that's his guaranteed final stop and we couldn't lure him away. He's also far from a proven commodity at this point. My fandom would be on pause if we hired Beard. If not May, Shrews could be interesting. But you know what I find most interesting/worthwhile as a fan right now? Cheering on this team and Mike Woodson. I'll save the hand wringing on our coaching searches for when... we actually have a coaching search on our hands. Constantly complaining about us not pursuing Pitino in 2000 or firing Archie after year 2 seems like a miserable way to be a fan, but to each their own. 

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4 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

You're right. Basketball was originally meant to be played was without any dribbling at all.

And now there are to much dribbling. It is easy to defend a stationary player who stands in the corner.  I would be for all of these changes if it actually made the game better but it hasn't. To me if it was better then why is scoring lower and why is shooting percentages lower.  You would think with the shot clock and 3 pointers that scoring would be way up.