They Fired Tom Allen!

[Stuhoo 80,901]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

This is one of about 4 reasons why Allen's $20mm buyout is very overblown by our fanbase. It's not a big deal at all.

And maybe the biggest reason is that the payoff can be amortized over many, many years.

[jefftheref 131]

1 hour ago, Naturalhoosier said:

You old people gotta hold it. Probably clogging up the toilets scratching your arses with that single ply!!!  ;)

I use that generic toilet paper. It's rough and tough and doesn't take any shi? from anybody.

[Hovadipo 56,261]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

And maybe the biggest reason is that the payoff can be amortized over many, many years.

That just so happens to be reason #2!

[Stuhoo 80,901]

4 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

That just so happens to be reason #2!

Then reason #1 (in my mind) is that keeping him as coach, as a purely actuarial exercise, would likely be far more financially costly that paying out.

And reason #3 is that there is practically zero chance that this team will trend better by keeping him.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

6 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

This is one of about 4 reasons why Allen's $20mm buyout is very overblown by our fanbase. It's not a big deal at all.

But if they spend that money, they can't say they made the most profit.

[Hovadipo 56,261]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Reason #1 (in my mind) is that keeping him as coach, as a purely actuarial exercise, would likely be far more financially costly that paying out.

Our lists are very much aligned, my friend.

Keep him around and watch the public seating (students were on Thanksgiving break, they get a pass) for the home opener next year look like MSU on Saturday.

[Lebowski 2,744]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Mellencamp needs a lot of work, football only weight room and some things like that. We easily have the worst facilities. Purdue just did something like 100 million upgrade, NW did like 200 million. Have to keep up. The next head coach will get 7-9 million

If any of this is even remotely true, I think we'll get some quality coaches to at least pick up the phone if Dolson calls. I've listed a few that I think would do wonders for the overall program in another thread. And my worry is the coaches I've listed probably wouldn't even consider a program like IUFB because of various reasons. All of this stuff you've listed being some reasons. This is very promising rumor information. I hope it's all serious and truth. Thanks for sharing. 
 

[craigyv88 384]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Mellencamp needs a lot of work, football only weight room and some things like that. We easily have the worst facilities. Purdue just did something like 100 million upgrade, NW did like 200 million. Have to keep up. The next head coach will get 7-9 million

Glad to hear a plan is in place and also that they're willing to pay that level of salary.  For comparison Ryan Walters is getting $4 million at PU and only Ferentz, Fickell, Harbaugh, Franklin, and Day are in or above the $7-9 million category (Tucker was as well). 

Justin Frye is currently getting around $800k in his position at OSU so that would be a massive raise for him if that's the direction they go.  Initially hearing $7-9 million makes me think more of Dan Mullen territory or another similar coach, however I doubt a guy like that is a plausible candidate for us.

[Lebowski 2,744]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I have not. I think the buyout money will come from former players and boosters and we will be able to pay the next coach something good. But I have little faith in who we get. The only names I heard and this was after week 3 was Randle El and Justin Frye

Hopefully Dolson has had some time to rethink this. Especially after the whole Coach Prime dust settling. I don't think it's a good idea to bring past players of a program that is one of the worst in college football history. We need to get a coach with a track record and demands a culture of winning. 

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4 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I think it will happen by this time next Monday. I also think after we hire a new coach will see a multimillion-dollar rollout for a facilities upgrade. 

Heartening if this happens. Can't help but think that even with the buyout, time is of the essence with the new Big Ten additions - it'd be nice to show that we are ready to support our football program.

[8bucks 6,456]

12 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Mellencamp needs a lot of work, football only weight room and some things like that. We easily have the worst facilities. Purdue just did something like 100 million upgrade, NW did like 200 million. Have to keep up. The next head coach will get 7-9 million

Could that $7-$9 million be for the entire staff? Or could it be the level if we get the top couple candidates but will be lower if not?

[IUrocker 2,185]

I’ve seen articles saying USC defense being a mess and hoping Tom Allen becomes a major candidate for their DC spot to look into. Also heard Jim Leonard as being someone IU could look into as coach if he ends up not wanting to be interested in going to USC as DC….so not sure how serious those talks blossom, just a name that was mentioned.

[LIHoosier 26,209]

O Canada was fired by the Steelers today. Please don't consider him, Scott. Thank you.

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[OGIUAndy 769]

37 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

O Canada was fired by the Steelers today. Please don't consider him, Scott. Thank you.

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He will consider him as much as he considers anyone who wants the job. Keep that in mind. It's really WHO would want the job and then you go from there. Canada wouldn't be an inspired hire but he probably could get a good staff. I would not like the hire myself. He seems to have issues everywhere he goes. And by issues, detractors of his offense. 

[LamarCheeks 18,961]

On 11/20/2023 at 10:24 AM, Stuhoo said:

And maybe the biggest reason is that the payoff can be amortized over many, many years.

Yep. I say we give him $20K a year over the next 1,000 years and call it even. 

[Artie86 1,930]

Interesting.....Coach Allen speaking about things he wants for next year.......

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-iu-hoosiers-football-tom-allen-plan-priorities-offseason-220969217/

 

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38 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

Interesting.....Coach Allen speaking about things he wants for next year.......

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-iu-hoosiers-football-tom-allen-plan-priorities-offseason-220969217/

 

Is he asking for IU football to adapt to even more losing than in the past due to today’s challenges??

[OGIUAndy 769]

1 hour ago, Artie86 said:

Interesting.....Coach Allen speaking about things he wants for next year.......

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-iu-hoosiers-football-tom-allen-plan-priorities-offseason-220969217/

 

If they "let him go" they probably aren't going to tell him until after the game. So of course he's going to say this, it's the end of the season. 

[TheWatShot 14,010]

1 hour ago, Artie86 said:

Interesting.....Coach Allen speaking about things he wants for next year.......

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-iu-hoosiers-football-tom-allen-plan-priorities-offseason-220969217/

 

Coaches have a job to do until they don't. 

[IU_FanClub 1,679]

I really hope we announce some investment soon, the more schools you see doing it and the more the future of college athletics becomes clear, the more nervous I get our admin is going to **** it up