Kokomo Monster (2024) - C Flory Bidunga to Kansas

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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Well, at least it doesn't say he committed on the spot.

[JSHoosier]

Get used to it. To win at the level we should expect we'll be competing against the likes of Duke for recruits, have to win the battles.

[Stuhoo]

The number 3 player in the class received an offer from Duke? Not sure why that's a revelation.

Sure, he may pop for Duke and it could happen soon. But let's get that official visit to IU done before he does. If he doesn't take an IU official before he announces then it's clearly a done deal, but with all the time he's spent at IU games, if he takes an IU official I think we have a puncher's chance.

[OGIUAndy]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

The number 3 player in the class received an offer from Duke? Not sure why that's a revelation.

Sure, he may pop for Duke and it could happen soon. But let's get that official visit to IU done before he does. If he doesn't take an IU official before he announces then it's clearly a done deal, but with all the time he's spent at IU games, if he takes an IU official I think we have a puncher's chance.

I'd say if he takes an official, we have more than a puncher's chance. 

[JSHoosier]

Having to beat Duke for a recruit is a better spot than having to hope Jeremiah April isn't a dud.

[go iu bb]

13 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

The number 3 player in the class received an offer from Duke? Not sure why that's a revelation.

Sure, he may pop for Duke and it could happen soon. But let's get that official visit to IU done before he does. If he doesn't take an IU official before he announces then it's clearly a done deal, but with all the time he's spent at IU games, if he takes an IU official I think we have a puncher's chance.

Did he take a junior year OV to IU or just a bunch of UV for games? I know he's been on campus multiple times. 

I'm glad the coaching staff isn't like some of the fans and just give up as soon as Fine shows interest. :)

[HoosierFan1994]

If I'm someone in Flory's "camp" I show them what Trayce was before Woodson vs. after Woodson as well as Lively's "development" at Duke. #1 recruit, 5 points a game, and the #12 overall pick. If you are a high school #1 overall player, you should be going top 5. Either that or Lively was overhyped which is possible. Sorry, I hate Duke and I'm not on the Scheyer bandwagon like the national media folks. They greatly underachieved this year with the talent they had. 

[Stuhoo]

9 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

If I'm someone in Flory's "camp" I show them what Trayce was before Woodson vs. after Woodson as well as Lively's "development" at Duke. #1 recruit, 5 points a game, and the #12 overall pick. If you are a high school #1 overall player, you should be going top 5. Either that or Lively was overhyped which is possible. Sorry, I hate Duke and I'm not on the Scheyer bandwagon like the national media folks. They greatly underachieved this year with the talent they had. 

 

Oof.

If I'm Duke I show them that Lively was the #12 overall pick after one year, and Trayce was the #57 pick after four years.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Oof.

If I'm Duke I show them that Lively was the #12 overall pick after one year, and Trayce was the #57 pick after four years.

 

unfortunately that's what I thought too.  But #1 recruits in the nation carry intrigue if you don't overplay your welcome.  TJD got pigeon-holed early by the scouts and was never fully able to break out of that.  If he was a #1 recruit out of HS he'd have been gone early too.  

NBA is so messed up right now though.  I'm hoping teams like Denver, Golden State and Miami prove that what many have been doing with prognosticating player's growth while ignoring production changes.  It's no wonder certain programs win and others lose routinely

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

unfortunately that's what I thought too.  But #1 recruits in the nation carry intrigue if you don't overplay your welcome.  TJD got pigeon-holed early by the scouts and was never fully able to break out of that.  If he was a #1 recruit out of HS he'd have been gone early too.  

NBA is so messed up right now though.  I'm hoping teams like Denver, Golden State and Miami prove that what many have been doing with prognosticating player's growth while ignoring production changes.  It's no wonder certain programs win and others lose routinely

So true. I assumed that Jaime Jaquez was not a high-value draft pick, but now that he was taken by Miami?

I automatically assume that Riley and Spoelstra see something that others don't and the guy will very likely succeed.

[Gnet550]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Oof.

If I'm Duke I show them that Lively was the #12 overall pick after one year, and Trayce was the #57 pick after four years.

 

I think two things to consider here…hype and height. 
 

Lively was rated number 1 in his class for whatever reason. He is getting drafted on what could be…I mean he avg 5 pts and 5 rebs on a Duke team that wasn’t as good as some of their previous teams…..

 

The other factor is Lively is 7’1”….if TJD WAS 7’1” instead of 6’9” he would have went earlier. Part of TJDs issue (NBAs eyes) is he would be an all-world center but he is in a PF body…

 

I love where TJD ended up too….he could shock the world there! I would also show them Adam Sonogo, Azoulis Tubelis, Drew Timme, and Oscar Tshiebwe didn’t get drafted from better teams from this year….

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

So true. I assumed that Jaime Jaquez was not a high-value draft pick, but now that he was taken by Miami?

I automatically assume that Riley and Spoelstra see something that others don't and the guy will very likely succeed.

I think for the most part, the guys that excel in college not based on system but skills, will find a way to excel in the NBA too if given equal opportunity and a proper system. So many of the high risk, high reward draft picks are just busts.

[HoosierFan1994]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Oof.

If I'm Duke I show them that Lively was the #12 overall pick after one year, and Trayce was the #57 pick after four years.

 

Very well could but Trayce was nowhere near the #1 player in is class Lively supposedly was. Again, I'm a homer and can't stand Duke one bit so I'm going to be biased a little. Lively may have a solid career simply because as it has been pointed out, he's a rim protector. 

Sounds like it's being suggested Trayce fell a bit because he did not want to be on a two way contract. No way there are 56 better players in the draft than Trayce. 

[HoosierFan1994]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

unfortunately that's what I thought too.  But #1 recruits in the nation carry intrigue if you don't overplay your welcome.  TJD got pigeon-holed early by the scouts and was never fully able to break out of that.  If he was a #1 recruit out of HS he'd have been gone early too.  

NBA is so messed up right now though.  I'm hoping teams like Denver, Golden State and Miami prove that what many have been doing with prognosticating player's growth while ignoring production changes.  It's no wonder certain programs win and others lose routinely

Bingo. Why I'm not the biggest fan of the league. Thing people forget, including me, is that these are 17, 18, 19 year olds. They are still developing. Of ESPN's top 8 '22 recruits, only one (Lively) was a lottery pick. Mitchell and Ware had disappointing freshman seasons. Nick Smith was supposedly a top 5 pick coming into the year. It's possible injuries played a role and situations around the school these players chose. However, I feel once some of these kids get to college they just take off. Like a Taylor Hendricks or Jalen... Even 2nd year guys like Bufkin and Hawkins developed. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Yesterday's Charlie Hughes Shootout.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Yesterday's Charlie Hughes Shootout.
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[Crimson and Cream]

12 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Yesterday's Charlie Hughes Shootout.

 

Kokomo's got a lot of work to do. Need shooters with Flory. We had that last year. They all graduated.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Russ Wood of Rivals from Thursday's Top 100 Camp

One of the top four players in the 2024 class, and the No. 1 center, Flory Bidunga was the most dominant player we watched on Thursday. He made all eight of his shot attempts – most of them thunderous dunks – on the way to 17 points, and grabbed nine rebounds.

A very active 6-foot-10, 230-pounder, Bidunga was impressive defensively. On the perimeter he was comfortable switching on screens to guard a smaller player and in the paint his presence is respected by drivers.

Bidunga only sent one shot back in the game we watched but he has nine blocks in four games. He seems to challenge just about everything.

[Bowhunter]

Flory not planning on taking anymore visits per Rab. Doesn’t look good for us. He is still talking to our coaching staff but I believe we have a small chance here.