IUBB vs Wisconsin - 02/15/22 @ 9:00 on ESPN2

[HoosierAloha]

Don't be obtuse. It's not legal to give players "bags of cash".
I just can't had TJD 20k tomorrow. That's not legal.
Podcasts, sponsorships, whatever have to give fair market value. Can't just give money for the sake of giving money.

What’s fair market value for a game of 1v1 with TJD?

How much was Kareem making as a walk-on?


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[MikeRoberts]

52 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

What’s fair market value for a game of 1v1 with TJD?

How much was Kareem making as a walk-on?


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You’re being funny I know but you are correct. If Indiana wanted to push their donors to support the players vs the school I don’t think that would be hard to do, I just don’t see them doing that.

if they get a million a year from Ken Nunn, if the school said, hey, can you give us $500k and offer speaking engagements etc for players with your clients for the remaining $500k, I doubt he would say no. 
 

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

All these are easy as pie for guys that age. NO PENALTY AT ALL.

Missing a game? Now, that hurts.

Yeah, never understand how running for an athlete is a penalty.  Kind like punishing a NASA scientist by making him do calculus.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Goodness, we have a long way to go as a fan base too.

I would really like to know what happened leading up to the suspension. Not the action that caused the suspension but all the missteps before that. You don't just sneak out after curfew, get caught, and get suspended. There is more to that story than we'll probably every know.

I have my theories as to why we're still struggling with culture and fundamentals.

No one knows the details.  And honestly, although we might want to know, I think it’s good that those things are kept in house as much as possible. 

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

And who suggested they should?

Read back about ten pages or so.  There certainly were suggestions of it here.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I don’t follow the attempt to spin it to what have they done to deserve leniency. That’s just not the point. The point is whether suspending all 5 for what was a minor rules violation in a key game was excessive and poorly thought out. To me it was, to you it wasn’t— that’s ok. And i watched the game, we would’ve won with the missing 5 players. 
if you want to spin it, how about giving examples of college teams who went into a game missing 5 contributing players, including their starting — really only - point guard and won? Good hunting. Or, how did the Galloway point guard conversation go? Yeah, of course missing all 5 made it much less likely we’d win

Don’t think that throwing the word ‘minor’ in front of ‘rules violation’ repeatedly is making your point.  It’s just a deflective tactic.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Your opinion. We disagree. Coaches often run players etc for rules violations, they don’t often sit 5 players for what was a relatively minor team rules violation. 
i said I believe in Woodson long term, but i think this was just a bad, stubborn decision, and an unnecessarily costly one.

There is that word again ….”minor”.  

[JSHoosier]

We want to talk about "doing things the right way", that should also apply to following team rules regardless of severity.

[IUFAN1976]

17 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Where are you getting that I want him fired? I would hope my words have zero effect on his employment status. Hopefully, Woody will decide how long he remains employed as the men's head basketball coach at IU.

No offense but that is just the vibe you and many others are giving off. 

[Rico]

I am sooooo ready for an appearance in a Sweet Sixteen ...

[IUFAN1976]

18 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Honestly you could say the exact same thing 4 years ago about Archie, and there are probably posts that are nearly identical to this one. “Those are Crean’s guys, we can’t blame that on Archie. Wait until he gets his own guys.” We heard that over and over again. 6 of our 13 scholarship players never played a minute for Archie, but the offense is probably worse than it was last season. The flawed roster isn’t the only problem we’ve had this year. Woody has exacerbated the flawed roster with his poor rotations and his offensive game plan. The team is absolutely talented enough to be a tournament lock. 

Of those 6, 4 of them all played for a flawed program and they have never sniffed the NCAA tournament.  Besides the two freshman, what we have is the island of misfits that all played for other college coaches before CMW.

My only expectation for this team this because it was a flawed roster was just to make the NCAA tournament.  We were firmly in until this recent skid, partly because of the coaching staff and partly because of the players.  Plenty of blame to go around but I say we let the season play out.  Also, no matter the outcome of this season, let’s also see what adjustments are made during the offseason and beyond.  This is year 1 of the CMW era, we all should take a step back and wait until it’s complete before we start calling for his head!

[HoosierAloha]

5 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

No one knows the details.  And honestly, although we might want to know, I think it’s good that those things are kept in house as much as possible. 

Glad it's mostly stayed in house too. I suspect other tactics weren't getting through so suspensions were handed out to get their attention.

[HoosierAloha]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

No offense but that is just the vibe you and many others are giving off. 

Do you think that could possibly be how you're interpreting posts? I have never once mentioned anything close to that. In fact, I've posted the opposite on multiple times.

[HoosierAloha]

45 minutes ago, Rico said:

I am sooooo ready for an appearance in a Sweet Sixteen ...

We had one a few years ago right? Beat Arkansas (?) to move to the EE.

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

Do you think that could possibly be how you're interpreting posts? I have never once mentioned anything close to that. In fact, I've posted the opposite on multiple times.

Possibly, and I said don’t take offense to it.

[Trish]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

I am sooooo ready for an appearance in a Sweet Sixteen ...

We're about 3 years away from one! 

[HoosierHoopster]

7 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

Don’t think that throwing the word ‘minor’ in front of ‘rules violation’ repeatedly is making your point.  It’s just a deflective tactic.

You think it was major? Ok

[HoosierAloha]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Possibly, and I said don’t take offense to it.

This is strange. Don't take offense but... have you ever been involved in a hyper competitive environment?

I hope Woody has been evaluating himself and asking the same questions that have been asked on here. Like it or not, Woody is responsible for the roster, the culture, the manner in which his team plays, and the wins and losses. It's his first season, I'm sure he's learned a lot of what to do/not to do. We'll see where he goes from here.

[IU_FanClub]

10 hours ago, IU Scott said:

No true IU fan would ever say that.  I saw three championships won the right way and we use to get on UK for having to cheat to win.  Never eod want IU to stoop to tnay level.

Yes let's tie one hand behind our back and win championship after championship with 3 star athletes

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

This is strange. Don't take offense but... have you ever been involved in a hyper competitive environment?

I hope Woody has been evaluating himself and asking the same questions that have been asked on here. Like it or not, Woody is responsible for the roster, the culture, the manner in which his team plays, and the wins and losses. It's his first season, I'm sure he's learned a lot of what to do/not to do. We'll see where he goes from here.

Absolutely!  As he, Thad Matta, and Dolson should do as well.  I would think Woody would be the first to tell any of us that he has a lot to learn about the college game.  I picture those 3 sitting down and evaluate Woodson’s 1st year and what he needs to work on to improve.  We all knew weren’t getting a complete and experienced college coach but the candidates were few and Dolson felt that Woodson was the best choice.  Good, bad or indifferent he is our coach and I hope like heck he succeeds because that will make it better for the next guy.