IUBB vs Michigan - 01/23/22 @ 3:30 on CBS

[VO5]

51 minutes ago, str8baller said:

What player would you have played today? 6-9 seemed as bad as 1-5. 

Not started Stewart and Kopp. And if I did, actually run plays for them to get open instead of standing around. Having one of Galloway and Phinisee on the court at all times. Yeah, today probably wouldn’t have mattered. But this is a theme that has been happening all year with the starters. We were a combined -13 with the starting lineup each half against Purdue and -13 again today with Michigan. That’s alarming. Phin or Galloway have to start in front of either Kopp or Stewart. And woody needs to run plays for Stewart to get open way more often. The wrong guys are shooting for us

[Five Prime]

16 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

The bench played poorly today. Durr got his 4 points on two nice jumpers (Durr should try to teach TJD how to shoot). Phinisee was back to playing like he usually does.  Bates tried a shot from behind the basket. Does he think he is Larry Bird? Geronimo was invisible. Galloway has no business shooting anything but a layup. He's a terrible shooter and even missed a layup after a nice steal. A three point shot from Galloway is the equivalent of a turnover.  The offense is mostly one-on-one--too little ball movement. The coaching staff has to figure out ways to get Parker Stewart and Miller Kopp more open 3s. Parker hits a good percentage of open 3-point shots. Michigan played like their preseason ranking. They looked like the best team in the league.

They did but they can't be expected to come in game after game and dig the starters out of double digit deficits in the first half. 

[Josh]

26 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Not gonna win very many times when the opponent shoots 64% from three

Is this for real?  They shot 64% from 3?  Good grief.  We wouldn't have beaten them tonight even with our best game.  They were unbeatable tonight by anybody.  

[rcbowla]

Is this for real?  They shot 64% from 3?  Good grief.  We wouldn't have beaten them tonight even with our best game.  They were unbeatable tonight by anybody.  

75% of those attempts weren't in the viscinity of being contested

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[rcbowla]

75% of those attempts weren't in the viscinity of being contested

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And that might be underestimating it

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[Josh]

Just now, rcs29 said:

75% of those attempts weren't in the viscinity of being contested

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It's insanely high for a team to shoot that number in warm-ups even.

[HoosierAloha]

11 minutes ago, NOLA Hoosier said:

Honestly, this needed to happen. They have to learn the consequences of sleepwalking through games against lesser opponents just because they won a big one a couple nights before.
 

I’m still fairly confident they’ll make the tourney and perhaps even make it past the first round.

I was hoping the PSU game was the wake up call.

[rcbowla]

It's insanely high for a team to shoot that number in warm-ups even.

I agree but after they've hit like 8 of them you probably need to stay with them. At least attempt to contest them.....IU did not

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[Alford Bailey]

As well as Michigan played we had several missed shots near the basket and miss timed jumps for rebounds. Could have been a closer game.

[HoosierAloha]

9 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

If you noticed late in 2nd half, he ran several sets for Stewart to get some 3’s and that required people setting screens and him moving.  Most of the time I see Stewart and Kopp standing in one spot and not moving.  I thought our offense was going to be constant movement like that; however, it’s primarily throwing the ball into the post to TJD or Race and everyone else standing around waiting for them to make a play or kick it out when they are double team.  I thank we can do both, pass into the post then go screen away and have someone curl off a screen and TJD feeds him for a wide open shot!  Simple basketball and a way to get Stewart and Kopp more involved 

Which is confusing because we do this sometimes and get really good looks for both the shooter or for a cutter. Other times we just completely forget or maybe instructed not to move?

[reconmkd]

Wow this game dropped us to 63 in RPI from the 30s!

[pumpfake]

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

It's insanely high for a team to shoot that number in warm-ups even.

yeah.  I know our defense gave them a lot of open looks, but I don't believe for a minute that if we got that many wide open looks we'd make anywhere near that percentage.

Maybe it's an unrealistic wish on my part but it seems like I've been pleading to get a lights out shooter for a long, long time.

One positive about today - we're not "peaking" too early in the season...

[Brass Cannon]

28 minutes ago, NOLA Hoosier said:

Honestly, this needed to happen. They have to learn the consequences of sleepwalking through games against lesser opponents just because they won a big one a couple nights before.
 

I’m still fairly confident they’ll make the tourney and perhaps even make it past the first round.

How many times do they have to get this lesson?  For most of these guys it’s like the 50th time 

[Honkyman]

VO5 said: "Having one of Galloway and Phinisee on the court at all times."

Phinisee and Galloway both played awful--2 points combined. Starting either one of them would have made no absolutely difference. The entire team stunk with the exception of Xavier Johnson. Johnson was IU's best player today. At least he tried to make something happen. There was no energy with anyone else.

 

[IUFAN1976]

18 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

yeah.  I know our defense gave them a lot of open looks, but I don't believe for a minute that if we got that many wide open looks we'd make anywhere near that percentage.

Maybe it's an unrealistic wish on my part but it seems like I've been pleading to get a lights out shooter for a long, long time.

One positive about today - we're not "peaking" too early in the season...

Stewart is close, I just think CMW needs to keep running sets for him, specifically starting the game to get him going and involved 

[Uspshoosier]

25 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Wow this game dropped us to 63 in RPI from the 30s!

RPI is a metric not used anymore but I’m not seeing where it has them 63.  

[IUFAN1976]

28 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Which is confusing because we do this sometimes and get really good looks for both the shooter or for a cutter. Other times we just completely forget or maybe instructed not to move?

It’s too much relying on TJD.  Honestly, I would rather see TJD average 14-16 points per game and have two others averaging double figures.  I think CMW needs to get others involved and have a more balanced scoring 

[TheWatShot]

29 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Wow this game dropped us to 63 in RPI from the 30s!

There are like 3 different websites that use their own version of RPI. And like USPS said, it's an outdated metric that's no longer important. 

[TheWatShot]

Adjusted offense dropped all the way to 86th after this game. It's just way too hard for this team to score points. 

[reconmkd]

14 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

RPI is a metric not used anymore but I’m not seeing where it has them 63.