cthomas Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 If we want to be at the top of college basketball, we have to play and beat the best. This is an opportunity to prove we belong in the national conversation. My guess is our team is our team is beyond excited to play UNC. lillurk, HoosierFan1994 and Joe_hoopsier 3 Quote
Josh Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: Yup. Anything other than us getting blown out is a major win. All press is good press! Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 I guess the NCAA will automatically make us a top 4 seed. Seems like they reward out of conference SOS regardless of result. hoosierbgh and Josh 2 Quote
Chris007 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said: I think with the hype and expectations we'll have heading into this season, a game vs. UNC or Duke seemed like a natural. Still after 20 years of us participating in the challenge, we haven't played -- Virginia, Louisville, Miami, Clemson, Virginia Tech. I didn't include Notre Dame because we'd been playing them every other year at Indy. I just figured that by now, we would've have played everyone -- or most everyone. We will probably get Villanova who we haven't played since 81-82 I believe. lillurk 1 Quote
NashvilleHoosier Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 hours ago, btownqb said: It doesn't sound practical to get Nova... and play all 4 of those schools. Who knows? But... @Xavier wouldn't be bad. I could see us at Creighton, SH, Providence. Any of those schools would be solid non cons. No problem with playing Nova though. Who knows how it will shake out but worth noting that most people have Creighton ranked higher than Nova in early predictions. They very well could be the stronger opponent this coming season. Quote
CSP Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, NashvilleHoosier said: Who knows how it will shake out but worth noting that most people have Creighton ranked higher than Nova in early predictions. They very well could be the stronger opponent this coming season. Oh for sure. I honestly don't even peek at the preseason stuff. I think Creighton is excellent and if they were the "4th best team we play in non con".... holy cow, what a schedule! NashvilleHoosier and Demo 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, btownqb said: Oh for sure. I honestly don't even peak at the preseason stuff. I think Creighton is excellent and if they were the "4th best team we play in non con".... holy cow, what a schedule! Creighton will probably start out the season in the top 10 and I would have them closer to top 5 if everyone is healthy. Rumors are they might not be in the gavitt games this year. If IU played at Creighton along with the other games that’s gauntlet of games. CSP, HoosierHoopster and thebigweave 3 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 I asked this earlier to someone..UNC/IU has to be the biggest game at Assembly Hall since Michigan/IU in 2013 right? Pretty sure Michigan was #1 IU was #3. Good chance IU and UNC are both top ten teams when they meet. In my "fandom" since 02 I think the biggest home games that stand out are: 2005 #1 Duke 2008 #9 Michigan State (Gameday) 2011 #1 Kentucky 2013 #1 Michigan 2022 #4 Purdue Might be taking some of my housing profit to go to this game. I've been dying to go to a major game at Assembly Hall...just haven't been a lot to go to. Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said: I guess the NCAA will automatically make us a top 4 seed. Seems like they reward out of conference SOS regardless of result. I hope this is the opposite of the 2016 team. They went 15-3 in the B1G but got punished for no major out of conference wins (Maui was a disaster and so was the Duke game). I'm okay with them going 14-6 and maybe not winning the regular season n the B1G IF they can go 2-2 or maybe even 3-1 against the big four games. Side note: We all talk about 2013 and rightfully so but I believe the 2012 and 2016 teams could have made the final four in the right bracket. Just got stuck against UK (National Champs) and UNC (National Runner-Ups). Both teams had some bad losses that prevented them from getting a 3 seed and better matchups. HoosierHoopster 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said: I asked this earlier to someone..UNC/IU has to be the biggest game at Assembly Hall since Michigan/IU in 2013 right? Pretty sure Michigan was #1 IU was #3. Good chance IU and UNC are both top ten teams when they meet. In my "fandom" since 02 I think the biggest home games that stand out are: 2005 #1 Duke 2008 #9 Michigan State (Gameday) 2011 #1 Kentucky 2013 #1 Michigan 2022 #4 Purdue Might be taking some of my housing profit to go to this game. I've been dying to go to a major game at Assembly Hall...just haven't been a lot to go to. When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html lillurk and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html We beat a top 5 Kansas that season as well. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html Isn't that the game we lost OG for the season? Quote
eddy4iu Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html Holy **** - I'm ALMOST in that photo. Quote
Southside Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. 14 hours ago, btownqb said: It doesn't sound practical to get Nova... and play all 4 of those schools. Who knows? But... @Xavier wouldn't be bad. I could see us at Creighton, SH, Providence. Any of those schools would be solid non cons. No problem with playing Nova though. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams HoosierHoopster, Brass Cannon, lillurk and 3 others 6 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Southside said: That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams It really does all make sense. Fingers crossed we get them and we beat them. Would be a big win Southside 1 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 11 hours ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html True that has to be it. Very much possible IU would've been #1 or #2 had they not lost to Fort Wayne the week before. What a shame that season was. Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Southside said: That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams Good work. I say bring them on...Obviously we all want to go 3-1/4-0 against KU, Arizona, UNC, and possibly Villanova. But even going 2-2 (which I think is possible) would be huge. Southside 1 Quote
Southside Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said: It really does all make sense. Fingers crossed we get them and we beat them. Would be a big win Yup. Nova or Xavier. I don't care which to be honest. Xavier is better fans to travel. Nova would likely draw bigger ratings. But PS games vs AZ, UNC, Kansas, and Nova would be pretty crazy lol. Glad we have the cupcakes. Watch the BE throw us a curve ball though in terms of matchups lol. 53 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Good work. I say bring them on...Obviously we all want to go 3-1/4-0 against KU, Arizona, UNC, and possibly Villanova. But even going 2-2 (which I think is possible) would be huge. I'd be more than happy with 2-2 even if it's Xavier and not Nova. Regardless, it'll boost SoS big time, but most of all, help us improve for the regular season. HoosierFan1994 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 11 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said: Isn't that the game we lost OG for the season? We lost OG at Penn St, the game JBJ won at the buzzer. OG had a minor injury after the UNC game and missed a couple weeks. HoosierHoops1 and HoosierHoopster 2 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Last time we played Xavier we got whooped up on a bit and we even had Eric Gordon. Before that we actually beat them. I can't which year but I do remember Xavier had Romain Sato and I think it was a pretty good game. That was the game I learned that I shared a name with a university and became a fan out of default. Southside 1 Quote
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