ap2345 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: We're all oversimplying things. There's nobody on this message board that was in the room with Stevens, Ainge, Wyc, or Dolson on IU's side. None of us know exactly what happened. With that said, knowing a bit about how the Celtics operate, and how these things work, I'm absolutely confident that if Brad Stevens wanted to be IU's coach, he would be IU's coach. The Celtics aren't going to play some game where they ruin his career or threaten his future NBA prospects, beyond owning his rights and getting compensation if he returned to the NBA. IMO, the most plausible scenario is that he really just wanted to stay in Boston and stay in the NBA. The next most plausible scenario is he had interest but he and the Celtics wanted him to finish this season in the NBA and IU didn't want to wait. I'm as confident as I can be that there wasn't a scenario where Stevens wanted the IU job and the Celtics somehow forced him to stay against his wishes. I doubt he was forced to stay and the truth is probably someplace in the middle. With that though I know you are a Celtics fan and have close ties having worked their but Ainge is a snake when it comes to making trades and improving the roster and that's why they are struggling in Boston. I don't trust him and hate the way he plays teams in the media when his fleecing attempts don't work. With that said Mike Woodson is IU's coach for the next several years so I think we can move on from any Stevens talk for at least another 5 or 6 years minimum. If Matta's still around and Brad's kids are older then maybe Matta can hire Brad a second time and Brad can finally return home and take a crack at his dream job. He can deny it in the press conference but at some point he will want to try and tackle his dream he had when he was a younger coach even if the timing wasn't right this time for whatever reason. Quote
Trish Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 The marketing on Woodson (pictures) has me buying in little by little. I'll hopefully be all in by May! BGleas and Hippopotamo 2 Quote
BGleas Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ap2345 said: I doubt he was forced to stay and the truth is probably someplace in the middle. With that though I know you are a Celtics fan and have close ties having worked their but Ainge is a snake when it comes to making trades and improving the roster and that's why they are struggling in Boston. I don't trust him and hate the way he plays teams in the media when his fleecing attempts don't work. With that said Mike Woodson is IU's coach for the next several years so I think we can move on from any Stevens talk for at least another 5 or 6 years minimum. If Matta's still around and Brad's kids are older then maybe Matta can hire Brad a second time and Brad can finally return home and take a crack at his dream job. He can deny it in the press conference but at some point he will want to try and tackle his dream he had when he was a younger coach even if the timing wasn't right this time for whatever reason. That's just squarely perception of opposing fans on Danny Ainge, not the reality. He wouldn't have lasted this long as a GM with one team if that was accurate. Hes widely respected in the NBA among players, coaches, and other GM's. I find it funny when fans present this image of Ainge. On one hand opposing fans call him a snake who other teams don't trust, then on the other hand they call him "Trader Danny" because he trades so much. It can't be both. Read this article from just a couple months ago that are anonymous quotes from other GM's on what it's really like to deal with Danny. This is the reality. Most GM's like dealing with the Celtics. https://www.celticsblog.com/platform/amp/2021/1/19/22237956/what-is-it-really-like-to-talk-trades-with-danny-ainge-boston-celtics Quote
ap2345 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, BGleas said: That's just squarely perception of opposing fans on Danny Ainge, not the reality. He wouldn't have lasted this long as a GM with one team if that was accurate. Hes widely respected in the NBA among players, coaches, and other GM's. I find it funny when fans present this image of Ainge. On one hand opposing fans call him a snake who other teams don't trust, then on the other hand they call him "Trader Danny" because he trades so much. It can't be both. Read this article from just a couple months ago that are anonymous quotes from other GM's on what it's really like to deal with Danny. This is the reality. Most GM's like dealing with the Celtics. https://www.celticsblog.com/platform/amp/2021/1/19/22237956/what-is-it-really-like-to-talk-trades-with-danny-ainge-boston-celtics Maybe that's the case but I just don't like how with the Celtics it always leaks out about how they "almost got so and so" or they "didn't really want so and so" just to make themselves look better. When in reality all it does is make him look like he doesn't want to improve the roster without fleecing the other team. T White 1 Quote
ap2345 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Now back to the regular program of MIKE WOODSON AND THAD MATTA Stuhoo, Chris007, tkbbn and 2 others 5 Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, ap2345 said: Now back to the regular program of MIKE WOODSON AND THAD MATTA I think we hear some news today on an assistant coach and at least one player coming back. hoosierfan6157, 323SGrant, Hoosierfan2017 and 15 others 18 Quote
BGleas Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, ap2345 said: Maybe that's the case but I just don't like how with the Celtics it always leaks out about how they "almost got so and so" or they "didn't really want so and so" just to make themselves look better. When in reality all it does is make him look like he doesn't want to improve the roster without fleecing the other team. Maybe that's not whats really happening. Quote
ap2345 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, Chris007 said: I think we hear some news today on an assistant coach and at least one player coming back. Which assistant coach candidate will we be hearing about? Quote
hoosierbannerd Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Golfman25 said: Love the pics in the AH lobby. Every time I'm there I feel like I'm walking on sacred ground. Whenever my closest friend (God rest his soul) and I made the trip to Assembly Hall, we always referred to it as "Mecca"... BGleas and T White 2 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I think we hear some news today on an assistant coach and at least one player coming back. My guess is Dane Fife and Lander?? GaryP, thebigweave, NVFalcons1990 and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, ap2345 said: Which assistant coach candidate will we be hearing about? Just a guess but something about Roberts staying on or moving to a different role, or about someone coming back. Player wise I think we hear about Lander returning. coonhounds, Hutch89, BGleas and 10 others 13 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris007 said: Just a guess but something about Roberts staying on or moving to a different role, or about someone coming back. Player wise I think we hear about Lander returning. Any others outside of Lander close to coming back? Quote
Hoosierfan1901 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, HoosierFan1994 said: Any others outside of Lander close to coming back? hoosierfan6157, cybergates, NVFalcons1990 and 3 others 6 Quote
Trish Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I think we hear some news today on an assistant coach and at least one player coming back. I'm smelling some Franklin news! Chris007, Hippopotamo and BGleas 3 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Hooserfan1901 said: Interesting. It seemed he was one that was leaving. I listened to Woodson with Dakich and Greenburg on the way to work today. Woodson made it obvious he wanted everyone back but also said he isn't waiting around. Someone replied to me yesterday and they were right-Woody is basically saying get on board or get overrecruited. pumpfake and BGleas 2 Quote
Chris007 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said: It's possible he comes back, but I think he and his family have to have a long talk before it's announced. I would think after the weekend is more likely there BGleas 1 Quote
Hippopotamo Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 It’d be incredible if everyone stayed, but if I had to bet I would guess Geronimo and Race end up leaving, with Lander and Franklin returning. Then I think we’d still have like 3 openings for transfers. Chris007 and BGleas 2 Quote
Henryville Hoosier Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Chris007 said: Just a guess but something about Roberts staying on or moving to a different role, or about someone coming back. Player wise I think we hear about Lander returning. Ivan Renko assistant Edited April 1, 2021 by Henryville Hoosier Chris007 and hoosierbannerd 1 1 Quote
IUBBx5Banners Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: Maybe that's not whats really happening. To be fair, the article you linked has quotes saying just that lol. There’s long been rumblings that he isn’t the most congenial guy. Regardless, Danny’s going nowhere. He’s literally got enough job security for two Ainge generations in the Celts FO. That’s what happens when you hit very big on a few key moves like the Big 3 trades (great deals coming in, even better going out), the Fultz 1-3 swap, the kyrie deal and the J+J picks. However, his mid round drafting resume is getting pretty ugly.. Quote
Hoosierfan1901 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Ivan Renko’s eldest son has committed to IU “After hearing my dad accepting the IU assistant job, I’ve decided to come to my father’s old stomping grounds. I will like to think everyone in my recruiting process and grateful for Coach Woodson allowing me to continue my career.” Hutch89 and go iu bb 1 1 Quote
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