Ooooook who’s your # 2?

[Banksyrules]

I just a coach that can coach good offense (what Miller lacked) and good defense (what Crean lacked). I hope that isn’t too much to ask for.  

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49 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

 

I WANT GREG TONAGEL!

God, no.  And if we are going to take anyone from Indiana Wesleyan, it would be Kyle Mangas....he'd be the best shooter on the team.

[Banksyrules]

Gotta admit. Pitino is a scumbag but he knows how to coach.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Chris Beard

Rick Pitino

CALBERT

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7 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I'm not old enough to remember, but what do you think IU fans thought when they hired RMK?  Who the hell is this guy?  Don't care where you are coaching now, you either have it or you don't!  Just because he is in the NAIA doesn't mean squat to me, if you can win!

Different world than when RMK was hired.  Recruiting connections matter.  BTW, Archie Miller won at a high rate at a mid major but couldn't at IU....there is a reason that you don't bring players up from single A ball to the majors.  Just because you can hit A pitching doesn't mean you can hit 100 mph fastballs.

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Hire Michael Penix.......of course we'd better have a good assistant to finish the year.

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18 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

This wishful thinking or a final verdict from his time at Louisville? Read this earlier and wasn't aware of anything that he'd done at Iona

It is a possibility from what I've read -- I'm guessing it doesn't happen, but it's a possibility -- final verdict from Louisville.  Don't know if it would effect his current position at Iona or just some place else that hired him.

[Ryno6284]

6 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Different world than when RMK was hired.  Recruiting connections matter.  BTW, Archie Miller won at a high rate at a mid major but couldn't at IU....there is a reason that you don't bring players up from single A ball to the majors.  Just because you can hit A pitching doesn't mean you can hit 100 mph fastballs.

Different world, same game.  We haven't had a teacher since RMK.

[kreigh8]

3 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Different world than when RMK was hired.  Recruiting connections matter.  BTW, Archie Miller won at a high rate at a mid major but couldn't at IU....there is a reason that you don't bring players up from single A ball to the majors.  Just because you can hit A pitching doesn't mean you can hit 100 mph fastballs.

I get what you're saying, but this isn't a great analogy. Fernando Tatis Jr only played 88 games at AA and before that was in A ball and he was pretty damn good his rookie year and now is one of the top 5 players in all of baseball in only his 2nd full season. Andrew Vaughn is likely to go from A ball in 2019 to the starting White Sox DH on opening day unless the Sox manipulate his service time for a few weeks when they break camp. Different sports and I totally get what you're aiming at, but just sayin' it's not completely unheard of in baseball.

[AZ Hoosier]

16 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I'm not old enough to remember, but what do you think IU fans thought when they hired RMK?  Who the hell is this guy?  Don't care where you are coaching now, you either have it or you don't!  Just because he is in the NAIA doesn't mean squat to me, if you can win!

Can't say what anyone thought about RMK. I was a kid. Dad passed 11 years ago... I am sure some remember... but to the NAIA guy to Indiana, not sure we've sunk that low... let him pay his dues  in D-II, low D-I and/or mid-majors... despite what the past 25 years looks like, Indiana is not a place where you jump from NAIA to the B1G... 

And to remind everyone, Alford killed at Manchester College... and has been adequate at best beyond that.

[Ryno6284]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

Can't say what anyone thought about RMK. I was a kid. Dad passed 11 years ago... I am sure some remember... but to the NAIA guy to Indiana, not sure we've sunk that low... let him pay his dues  in D-II, low D-I and/or mid-majors... despite what the past 25 years looks like, Indiana is not a place where you jump from NAIA to the B1G... 

And to remind everyone, Alford killed at Manchester College... and has been adequate at best beyond that.

Like I said, I think we need to find "our' Brad Stevens.  Why can't we find the guy that no one else has found yet?  Everyone says, "RMK isn't walking through that door".  Well, No $hit, we are always chasing the flavor of the month!

[kreigh8]

3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Can't say what anyone thought about RMK. I was a kid. Dad passed 11 years ago... I am sure some remember... but to the NAIA guy to Indiana, not sure we've sunk that low... let him pay his dues  in D-II, low D-I and/or mid-majors... despite what the past 25 years looks like, Indiana is not a place where you jump from NAIA to the B1G... 

And to remind everyone, Alford killed at Manchester College... and has been adequate at best beyond that.

I wish I could like this a second time! If we're getting to the likes of Tonagel, Becky Hammond and even Fife, we've struck out on nearly every major target and we have major problems. Hate to be a pessimist, but I'm not sure IU can recruit on brand recognition after 20+ years of mediocrity and I'm not sure Tonagel entering a player's home would get someone that excited to commit. While I'm certain that the offense would at least have more freedom after seeing personally several games when I was an IWU student, I'm not sure he'd bring in the talent that would be necessary. I'd rather strike out on Beard, Oats, Musselman, etc. before we start talking about Tonagel, Hammond, Fife and (gulp) Alford.

[AZ Hoosier]

3 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

I wish I could like this a second time! If we're getting to the likes of Tonagel, Becky Hammond and even Fife, we've struck out on nearly every major target and we have major problems. Hate to be a pessimist, but I'm not sure IU can recruit on brand recognition after 20+ years of mediocrity and I'm not sure Tonagel entering a player's home would get someone that excited to commit. While I'm certain that the offense would at least have more freedom after seeing personally several games when I was an IWU student, I'm not sure he'd bring in the talent that would be necessary. I'd rather strike out on Beard, Oats, Musselman, etc. before we start talking about Tonagel, Hammond, Fife and (gulp) Alford.

Exactly... and Arch was very successful at Dayton - successful enough to get Glass to bite - and here we are looking for his replacement 4 years later... Arch's success was at a  different league, with a different level of play, and different talent level required to compete... also a vastly different conference... Let's just not go there again...

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4 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Like I said, I think we need to find "our' Brad Stevens.  Why can't we find the guy that no one else has found yet?  Everyone says, "RMK isn't walking through that door".  Well, No $hit, we are always chasing the flavor of the month!

Brad Stevens was an assistant for seven years at the same D1 school whose program he took over.....and it was a Horizon league school.

As a D1 coach, Greg Tonagel doesn't even have a flavor.  RMK might not be walking through the door, but I know Greg Tonagel isn't.

[Indiana muskie]

Pitino 

 

[Ryno6284]

2 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Brad Stevens was an assistant for seven years at the same D1 school whose program he took over.....and it was a Horizon league school.

As a D1 coach, Greg Tonagel doesn't even have a flavor.  RMK might not be walking through the door, but I know Greg Tonagel isn't.

And so do I, but I think this is part of the problem with IU basketball.

[Ryno6284]

Man, I wish you guys were closer to me geographically.  We could sit around for hours discussing IU basketball and drinking beers!  I hate typing $hit out!  My mind goes faster than I can hunt and peck!

[Ryno6284]

8 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Brad Stevens was an assistant for seven years at the same D1 school whose program he took over.....and it was a Horizon league school.

As a D1 coach, Greg Tonagel doesn't even have a flavor.  RMK might not be walking through the door, but I know Greg Tonagel isn't.

Back to this sentence, are you saying we are better than a proven winner in NAIA?  The last 20 years beg to differ.  We need to crawl before we can run!  BASICS my friends.

[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Indiana muskie said:

Pitino 

 

Are we playing Jeopardy? I’ll take ‘Potential IU Coach’ for $300 Alex:

“Who is the coach who wins a lot, is old, cheats in every way imaginable both in basketball and his personal life, and may be kicked out of basketball in April?”

[Alford Bailey]

Would you still want Bennett if he lose in the first round in ssah?