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7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You've convinced yourself that IU is too good for Mick Cronin who has not only a higher floor but a higher ceiling than Greg McDermott and is significantly younger.

McDermott would be a solid on paper hire but it makes little sense for either side.

No, I haven't. I don't like his offense and he's proven his ceiling isn't all that impressive and that was with other coaches getting him NBA talent. 

I don't think he has a higher ceiling at all compared to Greg, at Indiana. 

Indiana makes A TON of sense for Greg McD.... Indiana makes ZERO sense for Cronin, though, who already coaches at a blueblood. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

They're the worst.  Being permanently skeptical is not a good trait.  They've been moving the goalposts all year too:

- Oh, new coach, he's talking a big game, but he will be another failure.

- Wait til the B1G road opener at UCLA.  We're gonna get killed.

- Wait til we play a real defense like Nebraska.  Honeymoon over!

- Wait til we actually play a real road game at MSU

- Wait til we have to play a team with draft picks like UM

Blah, blah, blah.

Yea we had a tough time at the national champs, who were killing everyone, including Tennessee and Oregon, and also the national runner-up.  That's like the most reasonable thing ever for a first year coach inheriting a bottom of the conference program picked at the beginning of the season to be last or second to last in the conference.

These losers will be trying to lob "I told you so's" if IUFB wins 6, 7, even 8 games next year.  Which is monumentally dumb given where we have been and what the program is trying to do.  Everyone knows it will take years and there will be ups and downs, heck this staff is just 16 months in and still getting high school recruiting relationships going.

If an IU fan can't enjoy what IUFB is trying to do, they like being miserable more than they like IU.  And by the way, the whole financial future of IU athletics rests on football, bball just does not move the needle even though we all love it.

 

I don’t even know why they’re mad. They got to watch their favorite team get second place this year. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I've had really good conversations with him over the last few months. That might be my favorite post. 

Why were they so adamant in defending Woody and bashing fans?

Posted
Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Imagine looking at a schedule with Washington, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio St, and ND and stating we only played two good teams lol 

Yea.  Imo, we kinda get screwed because if IUFB beats someone a lot of people assume that team must be bad.

Whatever, I'm loving it as are many IU fans.

Posted

so... we could take McDermott's salary from 2.93 to 4.5+ ..... but the move makes no sense? hmmmm

I can't imagine how much more we could offer in NIL and he'd be at a school he could win a Natty. 

Those are 3 really good reasons. 

Posted
1 minute ago, sirhoosierlot said:

I don’t even know why they’re mad. They got to watch their favorite team get second place this year. 

@SlammySammy is this you? be honest

Posted
2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I can't answer that about defending Woody, I do think he believes fans are part of the problem which I can see. We have disagreed a lot over the years, and blocked each other but in the end, we talk now and both want what's best for IU

Woody’s mediocrity eventually bringing people together is really beautiful. 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Indiana makes A TON of sense for Doug McD.... Indiana makes ZERO sense for Cronin, though, who already coaches at a blueblood. 

Why?

From McDermott's perspective---How many people nearing the age of retirement take at best a lateral job move? And yes, Creighton is a better basketball program than IU right now. McDermott failed at his first P5 gig and then reinvented himself at Creighton, turning them into a consistent top 25 program. He has it made in Omaha doing things his way in a complete stress-free environment. Why leave a program that is currently rolling to take a job that turns and burns coaches like a temp agency? Retire a legend at Creighton or potentially be run out of town in Bloomington is something to seriously ponder.

From IU's perspective---You're about to hire your 6th coach in 25 years. Your fan base is nuts and starving for success. You have zero culture or foundation of which to work with. Do I really want to hire a guy who will be 61 when next season starts? Do I risk a guy nearing the age of retirement getting burned out in a fishbowl job if things go south?

He'd be a solid hire as he'd raise the floor and have IU making the tournament consistently. But I don't think McDermott is going to deliver you a national title in a 5-6 year span. McDermott is a bridge hire, someone that should have been hired to replace Crean. I think there's a good chance we're doing this all over again in 5-6 years if you hire McDermott. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

so... we could take McDermott's salary from 2.93 to 4.5+ ..... but the move makes no sense? hmmmm

I can't imagine how much more we could offer in NIL and he'd be at a school he could win a Natty. 

Those are 3 really good reasons. 

McDermott is 60 years old. He's made several millions of dollars over the last 20 years and has a son who has made $70+ million in the NBA over the last decade. This isn't a money motivated move to build generational wealth for his family....he doesn't need it. 

 

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