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[GloryDays 6,090]

25 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Exactly. I get some just love mccollum but if we can only hire a guy with one year of d1 experience that shows how far we have sunk.

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We're a historical blue blood not a relevant or current one and yes we've sank that far. 30 years of middling success will do that.

The only people who don't see it is us. I for one would be more than happy with McCollum.

[HoosierInParadise 1,125]

if you believe we are paying someone 11 million, sure. 

We should if that's what it takes to go top tier.

[DougJr74 217]

I think Brad Stevens has been the smokescreen the whole time.

[Ryno6284 3,750]

1 minute ago, Hoosier82 said:

I am just guessing, but I would think the small donors are going to provide no matter what.  The larger ones I would expect tie their donation amount to a particulate recruit, transfer, or current enthusiasm level around the program.  I thought it was reported that the NIL this past year was specifically tied to Woodson as coach. 

If this is true, this is a problem! And probably most of the reason IU has sucked for so long. Meddling from the top instead of letting the coach do his job!

[Alistair Smash 255]

I know people have talked a lot about Archie Miller and I just wanted to bring one facet up that hasn’t been discussed. 
Archie was indeed one of the hit names of up and coming coaches. He was coaching in Dayton. But the way things played out, OSU knew something. They didn’t want to be saddled with him because they knew if they moved on from Thad Matta, the fan base would clamor for Miller. OSU patiently waited for IU to grab Miller. Only then did OSU move on from Matta and hire Holtman. 
This has always bothered me. That IU administration got played by OSU because OSU did their homework and IU did not. I’m hoping this group does not experience the same shortcomings. I have no reason to believe the will. 

[DChoosier 9,322]

If it is McCollum can we all get together and agree to not refer to him as BM….

[BGleas 8,654]

4 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

You wouldn’t pay the same price for a Ferrari as you would for a Pinto, but you still need a car, lol.

That's why I made the distinction between salary and NIL. 

Of course you're not giving McCollum the same salary as you would Brad Stevens. That's obvious. 

But regardless of the coach and once the contract is done, you'd want to give that person all of the resources possible to be successful and have the best roster they can acquire. 

When it comes to NIL, I'd think you either want the program to do well and have resources or you don't?

[Pagoda 3,151]

5 minutes ago, Alistair Smash said:

I know people have talked a lot about Archie Miller and I just wanted to bring one facet up that hasn’t been discussed. 
Archie was indeed one of the hit names of up and coming coaches. He was coaching in Dayton. But the way things played out, OSU knew something. They didn’t want to be saddled with him because they knew if they moved on from Thad Matta, the fan base would clamor for Miller. OSU patiently waited for IU to grab Miller. Only then did OSU move on from Matta and hire Holtman. 
This has always bothered me. That IU administration got played by OSU because OSU did their homework and IU did not. I’m hoping this group does not experience the same shortcomings. I have no reason to believe the will. 

Yea.  Fred wasn’t too good at the big (FB, bball) hires.  Issue with him is he had no experience as an AD.

Like you, I’ve got to hope Scott has this hiring thing mostly figured out.  I think there is a good chance he does, he likely got one right and he has observed a lot of mistakes up close over the years.

[Home Jersey 13,227]

Trilly lost his fast ball. 

McCollum or Huss over Stevens for me. 

Roast away, I won’t be here to defend myself today lol

[Hoosierfanyuh 4,314]

AP did say there’s going to be alot of wild rumors this week 

[Muskie plays the four 678]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Trilly lost his fast ball. 

McCollum or Huss over Stevens for me. 

Roast away, I won’t be here to defend myself today lol

Bucky ball for me Jersey 

[TadQueasy 1,847]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Trilly lost his fast ball. 

McCollum or Huss over Stevens for me. 

Roast away, I won’t be here to defend myself today lol

[Ctf9 282]

So many on here are now claiming big coaches never leave their jobs, not even for NIL, but I want to be very clear—this was not some message board scheme, this was what Dolson said he would do!

The only info we have from Dolson are Thamel’s two interviews.

Check out the first one, from February 8. Here Thamel summarizes Dolson’s thinking:  “the sell is come to Indiana, you will have a championship level budget and be able to compete for final fours. . . . Indiana is going to sell its power two status and that budget and try to lure a big name coach to Bloomington.”

Maybe this was a bad or naive plan, but this is what Dolson thought he could do. (Others agreed: Race Davis responded to Thamel, “I’m sure many will be interested.”)

So anyone who feels disappointed by a mid major shouldn’t be mocked. Dolson was the one who set our standards at “big name coach.” He thought that was doable. Many believed that revenue sharing and NIL meant previous whiffs (even UK and UL) no longer applied  

https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1888333901187490300

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[IUHoosierJoe 1,946]

Just now, BGleas said:

That's why I made the distinction between salary and NIL. 

Of course you're not giving McCollum the same salary as you would Brad Stevens. That's obvious. 

But regardless of the coach and once the contract is done, you'd want to give that person all of the resources possible to be successful and have the best roster they can acquire. 

When it comes to NIL, I'd think you either want the program to do well and have resources or you don't?

For large donors, they certainly want the program to do well, but (this is my sense, anyway) they look at their donation as buying something (e.g., access, influence) more than supporting something.  Just my opinion from knowing a couple.

[Geometry Hoosier 1,180]

I’ve heard that it’s Brownell. Supposedly he’s keeping Calbert, and bringing in Walter McCarty and the three Duncan brothers for an all Harrison coaching staff. 
 

actually, I’ve heard nothing of the sort

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,522]

3 minutes ago, HoosierInParadise said:

5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

if you believe we are paying someone 11 million, sure. 

We should if that's what it takes to go top tier.

Do you find it realistic that we are going to pay our coach 1.3 million more than the next highest-paid HC in the country? 13% more than the next highest-paid HC? 

Who is considered top tier? 

[tyappleg 6,196]

Osterman just retweeted his mid major article from a day ago.  I think we are full steam ahead on a mid major guy, McCollum or not. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,117]

29 minutes ago, Trish said:

Dolson isn't touching that. Dolson is a clean face kind of guy, probably wants someone who wouldn't hurt a fly. Will Wade will pay someone to hurt a fly. 

I think Cig would hurt a fly and find their family and hurt them to win.

[DChoosier 9,322]

8 minutes ago, GloryDays said:

We're a historical blue blood not a relevant or current one and yes we've sank that far. 30 years of middling success will do that.

The only people who don't see it is us. I for one would be more than happy with McCollum.

Yep,

Although we have more money and fan support than most schools the reality is that IU has been to one Elite 8 in 30 friggin years.