General Coach Candidate News

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6 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

I would like to see this compared against other coaching candidates. 

I was only able to see Cronin’s NET games since 2020-21.  He is 28-32 (compared to Beard’s 20-45).

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10 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

Chris beard is 5-7 against quad 1 at Ole miss

mike Woodson is 3-11 against quad 1 at IU

that comparison is not a good one

No it is not. Meanwhile our white whale hasn’t won a quad 1 game in over a decade

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Izzo put Dusty in the freezer. Once Goldin runs out of eligibility; will May be as effective?

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We can win without Beard here! I think McDermott is the guy!

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Just now, schoosier said:

Izzo put Dusty in the freezer. Once Goldin runs out of eligibility; will May be as effective?

Wolf is pretty damn good and May will get a full recruiting cycle.  They’ll stay strong.

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1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I was only able to see Cronin’s NET games since 2020-21.  He is 28-32 (compared to Beard’s 20-45).

There are just too many other things at play. A quad 1 game could be playing the best team in the country on the road or the 75th best team in the country on the road. IMO beard is in a different league than Cronin. I’m not impressed with what Cronin has done at UCLA

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4 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

Chris beard wins everywhere he goes. Mick Cronin has a high conference winning percentage because he coached for years in the American athletic conference 

His winning percentage in the Pac 12 and Big 10 is almost an entire 10 bps higher than it was in the Big East (during some pretty good years for the conference IIRC) and AAC. .608 compared to .690. That's basically the difference between winning 6 or 7 games out of 10. Nonsense. 

Chris Beard is sub .500 in the SEC at Ole Miss. In the Big 12 at Texas Tech he was 49-40 (.551). 

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10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Mark Turgeon should never get that call. Period.

Yeah I was asked about that on another post and said that if he was hired I would be the most ashamed of iu I had ever been. 

Then I outlined the coaches that should probably get rhe call before cronin

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Just now, bobknightsghost said:

There are just too many other things at play. A quad 1 game could be playing the best team in the country on the road or the 75th best team in the country on the road. IMO beard is in a different league than Cronin. I’m not impressed with what Cronin has done at UCLA

You asked for a comparison and it was given.  If you want to move goal posts because it doesn’t fit your narrative, I’m not interested.

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9 minutes ago, Papacap said:

Michigan losing at home. Cross May off the list.

I predicted that all the close games Michigan has been winning would catch up with them, eventually your luck runs out. Look for them to be about a 6 seed and make an early exit.

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1 hour ago, Ryno6284 said:

USPS SAYS HOLD MY BEER! AND JohnsonIU!

I am not holding anyone’s Johnson!  Lol

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Well said. Try Drew, try Pearl, hell try Self first, but there is no reason to go past Beard. 

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5 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

We can win without Beard here! I think McDermott is the guy!

McDermott is my #1 if we can possibly snag him

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9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Cronin is 7-6 in Q1 games this year and no one wants him anywhere near Bloomington.  Not saying I do however 7 Q1 wins wouldn’t be a bad thing to watch a team I’m invested in have 

Cronin is a good coach. I think most are being too picky and that pickiness is his appearance/personality. If he was our coach and won a ton of games people would embrace him

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7 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Fact or not a fact? Beard coached less than 1.5 seasons at Texas.

Not getting into why that happened. Just that it occurred. 

That was in 2022-2023 and he still drinks. Therefore hardly a slam dunk, guaranteed to restore IU to glory hire. 

He couldn't get it done at his alma mater. Why is he going to get it done here? He loves IU so much? Coz of RMK? 

The reasons he didn’t “get it done at his Alma mater” had nothing to do with the on court results. He won as many tournament games his first season as IU has in the last 9. His second year he was 7-1 with wins over the #2 and #7 teams before he got fired. 

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4 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

No it is not. Meanwhile our white whale hasn’t won a quad 1 game in over a decade

This is certainly a fair take. If the whale decided they wanted to coach college again I am hopeful he can build a staff to help with that transition.  A completely different game than the one he left.  He seems more willing to seek and accept help than woody did though. 

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2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Cronin is 7-6 in Q1 games this year and no one wants him anywhere near Bloomington.  Not saying I do however 7 Q1 wins wouldn’t be a bad thing to watch a team I’m invested in have 

I don’t love the fit for him here, but his record speaks for itself and if he’s the guy would have no problem rooting for him and would be excited to see how it plays out. And since we’re back on the Beard thing, given a choice of Cronin or Beard I would take Cronin 10 times out of 10 because, and if it makes me holier than thou than I guess it does, but not beating women strikes me as a minimum expectation for the job. 

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

His winning percentage in the Pac 12 and Big 10 is almost an entire 10 bps higher than it was in the Big East (during some pretty good years for the conference IIRC) and AAC. .608 compared to .690. That's basically the difference between winning 6 or 7 games out of 10. Nonsense. 

Chris Beard is sub .500 in the SEC at Ole Miss. In the Big 12 at Texas Tech he was 49-40 (.551). 

Right.. he coached at Texas Tech and Ole Miss not teams that are historically powerhouses in their respective conferences. 
 

compared to UCLA in the pac 12 and UC in the AAC/Big East

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Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The reasons he didn’t “get it done at his Alma mater” had nothing to do with the on court results. He won as many tournament games his first season as IU has in the last 9. His second year he was 7-1 with wins over the #2 and #7 teams before he got fired. 

Yeah. Will the reasons off the court happen again? That's literally the entire issue with Beard. 

Nobody thinks he's not a very good coach. Many here are overestimating him.

And not paying any mind to his downside risk, just the upside. 

People can hope for who they want but if they think this admin is hiring him they're setting themselves up to be letdown IMO. 

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Hey all - first post here and joined at the recommendation of a friend. Little burnt out on Peegs right now with the general “sky is falling” that’s going on over there right now. Looking forward to the discussion.