General Coach Candidate News

[Chris007]

Just now, Rusty Shackleford said:

It's wild because he burned bridges with a lot of the fanbase, too. At least those paying close enough attention to know who the program beat writers/reporters are. I'll never understand what he was thinking with his behavior and ties to HH. His community has become so insular. It's a shrinking ecosystem dependent on everyone there viewing Rabjohns as some kind of all-knowing source who deigns to provide them with "tidbits" and "chatter" as he sees fit. So, so bizarre. Almost cultish. 

It's very cultish. No one is allowed to bring anything up without it being OK'd by Rabby. People get vilified by it. 

Just saying Brad Stevens over there it is either deleted, laughed at, or made fun of. But anyone with any bit of sources, contacts, or slight detective work can figure out that there was more to it than what Goodman said. He just dismisses everything because he checked it out. Well, Rabby you might check something out again. 

[ronzo4IU]

Supposedly Kentucky was the one school that he thought he would uproot and go to if they ever came calling and they didn’t even go for that.

He built a Mecca there and why on earth would he want to come here and start all over,  that just sounds crazy.. 

[Hornsby]

My biggest fear with Drew is that he’s on the downward side of the mountain.
Aside from that, everything I’ve read is that they really love their new state of the art home and their new basketball facility and they are really proud of their accomplishments there, so I don’t foresee him up and moving at this stage of the game I can see retirement in the not to distant future.

He finished in first twice and third twice in conference the last four years. Yeah what a downward spiral.

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[Hornsby]

brother .... I get it, but this isn't even a 2nd chance lol
I would have hired Drew the next year ..... we look so soft. 

I was joking. The holier than thou attitude of some is comical.

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[PartyintheVillas]

2 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said:

It's wild because he burned bridges with a lot of the fanbase, too. At least those paying close enough attention to know who the program beat writers/reporters are. I'll never understand what he was thinking with his behavior and ties to HH. His community has become so insular. It's a shrinking ecosystem dependent on everyone there viewing Rabjohns as some kind of all-knowing source who deigns to provide them with "tidbits" and "chatter" as he sees fit. So, so bizarre. Almost cultish. 

This is the weird vibe I get as well. The way he talks down to his audience is gross since he's really become a gossip and rumor peddler and not a basketball guy. Since they got in bed with the Hysterics, he's been a character, not a journalist. Those guys are the Kardashians of Indiana basketball.

[CSP]

1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

There was more to it and some of the higher ups had to deal with very real backlash and ramifications from everything that happened at the time. 

If you are arguing we shouldn't want Drew, not sure what to say. 

 

 

"very real backlash" what does this even mean? 

[HoosierInParadise]

In fairness... He received a show cause penalty from the NCAA. We couldn't have kept him if we wanted to.  

I think the point is that the compliance department turned it in in the first place as opposed to not handling it internally and/or not cooperating with the NCAA like all other high profile institutions have done that they end up investigating.

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

I was joking. The holier than thou attitude of some is comical.

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I know I know. I'm saying, I can't take serious someone even bringing this s*** up. 

[PartyintheVillas]

Just now, HoosierInParadise said:

9 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

In fairness... He received a show cause penalty from the NCAA. We couldn't have kept him if we wanted to.  

I think the point is that the compliance department turned it in in the first place as opposed to not handling it internally and/or not cooperating with the NCAA like all other high profile institutions have done that they end up investigating.

I believe Dakich basically forced it to be that way. He was on a crusade that he's never stopped.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

If you are arguing we shouldn't want Drew, not sure what to say. 

 

 

"very real backlash" what does this even mean? 

You're not pumping a lot of sunshine right now :-). I'm just messing. My only concern with Drew is he's a religious nutjob but nothing with his basketball coaching ability. 

[CSP]

Just think of the hoops ya'll are jumping through to NOT hire someone like Scott Drew..... 

1. He's alleging in a sprial 

2. Someone said bad words 12 years ago

3. Now, at 54, he's near retirement---- Good golly--- No to Bennett, Pearl, and Jay Wright then. 

[CSP]

Just now, Chris007 said:

You're not pumping a lot of sunshine right now :-). I'm just messing. My only concern with Drew is he's a religious nutjob but nothing with his basketball coaching ability. 

well... our lack of discipline the last 4 years, his ways might be refreshing. I view his religious views as a positive. 

[EasyEJay]

3 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said:

It's wild because he burned bridges with a lot of the fanbase, too. At least those paying close enough attention to know who the program beat writers/reporters are. I'll never understand what he was thinking with his behavior and ties to HH. His community has become so insular. It's a shrinking ecosystem dependent on everyone there viewing Rabjohns as some kind of all-knowing source who deigns to provide them with "tidbits" and "chatter" as he sees fit. So, so bizarre. Almost cultish. 

Even the "Followers" are getting restless though. This coaching search has proved his lack of insight. He was able to hold them at bay for about 2-3 weeks as the job came open with agents floating guys names to angle for raises and NIL. But now that coaches are focused on the end of the year and his connections outside of the ADs office. It was insane that he actually posted that he didn't update the hot board because he "wanted to give the Washington game the coverage it deserved" I had not seen him comment or talk about the team and its play since prior to Woodson announcement even before then it was mostly criticism after the Bahamas. 

TO the point of his ties to HH it is interesting Eric got blasted for some comments on the 25th about MM and how he hopes the new coach kicks him to the curb, he caught some heat for it (keep in mind he is a 19 year old kid paid NIL or not ). Since then only post was his latest podcast episode. Wonder if Rabjohns and him had a convo about some things. Be interesting to see of his presence on the bard continues to dwindle 

[Kentuckysucks]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You're not pumping a lot of sunshine right now :-). I'm just messing. My only concern with Drew is he's a religious nutjob but nothing with his basketball coaching ability. 

Nutjob.  Got it.

[CSP]

played for two very religious coaches in HS.... we won A LOT of games. Doesn't bother me at all 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I've heard he is redeeming himself this time.

IMO, that's only because his guy has been sent packing... 

[hoosiersoxfan]

Religion shouldn't matter at all when it comes to coaching.  3 of the teams in this week's top 5 have Jewish head coaches.

[JHoosier914]

51 minutes ago, HoosierInParadise said:

55 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Drew is 20-11 in the NCAA tournament and 10-3 in the NIT.  That's outstanding.

I also love that UK wanted him and he said no. If we don't get Stevens and Drew says yes to us, it will make it that much sweeter of a hire that he spurned UK...

living in the bluegrass state, I can tell you that they will deny that they "really wanted him" until the sun don't shine...even though its true.  Brain power and a non-bias mind are not among BBN's strong suits

[8bucks]

6 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Supposedly Kentucky was the one school that he thought he would uproot and go to if they ever came calling and they didn’t even go for that.

He built a Mecca there and why on earth would he want to come here and start all over,  that just sounds crazy.. 

I could see where Drew may have thought he could keep getting players in the new realm but things are changing quickly.  In just one year IU increased their NIL in huge ways and announced they would invest more revenue sharing in BBall than contemporaries.  Remember how frustrated many were that Woody only stayed because he got $6million to spend on players.  That was a huge jump from prior years and that will continue it seems. The arms race used to be facilities but it is now cash and IU has moved to the front pack here. 

Secondly, at UK he may have had higher expectations than at IU.  For all those who wanted Cal out he had strong results during his time there.  Sure he had the best players but the results were pretty good and comparable to what Drew had done at Baylor.  So if Drew replicated his Baylor results he would probably be on the hotseat at UK whereas if he replicated those at IU, who had not had consistent success, he would not necessarily get a stature but should be much further from the hotseat. 

[EasyEJay]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You're not pumping a lot of sunshine right now :-). I'm just messing. My only concern with Drew is he's a religious nutjob but nothing with his basketball coaching ability. 

His candidacy as it relates to the IU job got brought up a few weeks ago on a Big 12 podcast that had a Baylor insider on it.

He did say if Drew went to IU and knocked it out of the park, won big at IU and restored the program . How funny it would be when you look at the fact that Drew is basically the polar opposite of Bob Knight