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[sirhoosierlot 3,174]

2 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Sam Story dropped into Trilly discord this AM and said he thinks Stevens is over. Dolson met with him on Feb 14th and it didn’t go anywhere. Timing with his daughter is bad.

Drew and May (since his buyout isn’t impossible)still at top of his list before they move on.


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seems like signs are pointing to Drew and that would be sick 

[Capt. Crimson 3,690]

seems like signs are pointing to Drew and that would be sick 

I don’t think anyone really knows on Drew yet. Trilly this morning saying he’d probably know a good amount about Drew with his connections but all he knows is that he hasn’t said no yet.


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[MikeRoberts 7,598]

18 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

It certainly does seem that if IU is going after Stevens that they are doing it much earlier than they did last go around.  Certainly is going to be time to pivot if it's not him.

I’m not so sure this is true. They knew Archie would be fired with a lot of time to plan ahead. He was in contact with Stevens for quite some time before Stevens official no/masshole statements 

[JPCIVOP 149]

8 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Sam Story dropped into Trilly discord this AM and said he thinks Stevens is over. Dolson met with him on Feb 14th and it didn’t go anywhere. Timing with his daughter is bad.

Drew and May (since his buyout isn’t impossible)still at top of his list before they move on.


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What if... Brad Stevens has been the smokescreen all along?!

 

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[bigrod 2,956]

6 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s not that he didn’t have a list in 2021 it was that he made little to no progress with that list. Fast forward to 2025, wasn’t May in that top 3? Now he’s signed a big extension and almost all but eliminated.

Again, if Stevens is his #1 and he gets him then it all works out. I have heard from a few people that he had done little work on backup plans 4 years ago and while not confirmed yet by any means, it appears little is being done again if you believe what is being said ie. No activity with agents 

as we found 4 years ago, you have to have multiple people ready to say yes to be safe and avoid 4 years of misery, not just one 

Maybe option #1 isn't a sure thing, but option #2 is. 

[Hoosierfan1901 7,019]

8 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Sam Story dropped into Trilly discord this AM and said he thinks Stevens is over. Dolson met with him on Feb 14th and it didn’t go anywhere. Timing with his daughter is bad.

Drew and May (since his buyout isn’t impossible)still at top of his list before they move on.


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Timing is always bad with Stevens

[BGleas 8,218]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s not that he didn’t have a list in 2021 it was that he made little to no progress with that list. Fast forward to 2025, wasn’t May in that top 3? Now he’s signed a big extension and almost all but eliminated.

Again, if Stevens is his #1 and he gets him then it all works out. I have heard from a few people that he had done little work on backup plans 4 years ago and while not confirmed yet by any means, it appears little is being done again if you believe what is being said ie. No activity with agents 

as we found 4 years ago, you have to have multiple people ready to say yes to be safe and avoid 4 years of misery, not just one 

Is it possible given the timing (ie February when coaches are really locked in on their own/current teams, quality wins, etc.) that the lack of chatter is maybe because this is just going to be a slower process than most of us think/want?

I know there can be agent back-channeling, etc., but I just think maybe things don't really heat up on this until maybe next week or the week after when many current college coaches have more time with conference tournament buys, double-buys, etc.  

[Chris007 53,451]

10 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Same day Michigan presented Dusty with the extension 

Yeah, that doesn't add up. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,802]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

The one thing I don't understand is if everything worked out the way people say it did. On Feb 14 Brad said no thanks. Then wouldn't have Scott been on the phone with Dusty's agent that afternoon saying he has big money coming for your client as soon as the season is over since we all know he was the #2 choice. I don't care if his family loves Michigan or not, (don't believe it) we could have given him a much better raise than the 1 million he got with the extension. 

We can still give him that better raise. The agent could have said, look Scotty, for Dusty’s sake and to keep the noise down, we’re signing the extension. The good news is we kept the buyout manageable so you only have to come up with another $2.5M. Scott laughs and says, “that’s it? Done.” I think the extension was the smart move but inconsequential, if Dusty is interested in coming here.

[Jet812 122]

30 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Because Dolson is going all in on Steven’s again with no backups. This seems like 2021 all over again. Maybe the outcome this time is different but that overconfidence is why we’re here in this thread

This is what I fear the most.  That Dolson thought he’d get Stevens, it ain’t happening & now we’re scrambling again.  If that’s the case SD should be fired.  I just don’t have the faith that many others do because of the Cig hire…

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,974]

1 minute ago, Jet812 said:

This is what I fear the most.  That Dolson thought he’d get Stevens, it ain’t happening & now we’re scrambling again.  If that’s the case SD should be fired.  I just don’t have the faith that many others do because of the Cig hire…

I'm going to sound like an @$$ here... but what does your faith in Dolson have to do with anything? Others keep mentioning this... he's the AD, he's the one making this hire... faith or no faith. It's going to happen. 

[bigrod 2,956]

1 minute ago, Jet812 said:

This is what I fear the most.  That Dolson thought he’d get Stevens, it ain’t happening & now we’re scrambling again.  If that’s the case SD should be fired.  I just don’t have the faith that many others do because of the Cig hire…

Or, maybe he put the work in months ago.

[Hornsby 3,082]

This is what I fear the most.  That Dolson thought he’d get Stevens, it ain’t happening & now we’re scrambling again.  If that’s the case SD should be fired.  I just don’t have the faith that many others do because of the Cig hire…

If he messes this hire up he will be fired. He already messed up the Woodson hire. Whether it was forced or not his name is on that hire.


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[iu eyedoc 3,170]

9 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s not that he didn’t have a list in 2021 it was that he made little to no progress with that list. Fast forward to 2025, wasn’t May in that top 3? Now he’s signed a big extension and almost all but eliminated.

Again, if Stevens is his #1 and he gets him then it all works out. I have heard from a few people that he had done little work on backup plans 4 years ago and while not confirmed yet by any means, it appears little is being done again if you believe what is being said ie. No activity with agents 

as we found 4 years ago, you have to have multiple people ready to say yes to be safe and avoid 4 years of misery, not just one 

They added 1 year and like $1.5M to May's  already low buyout. He may be content in Ann Arbor but nothing about that extension would change IU's interest in May

[MikeRoberts 7,598]

6 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Maybe option #1 isn't a sure thing, but option #2 is. 

If you believe that May is option 2 then that is hard to understand.

[IUHoosierJoe 1,741]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah, that doesn't add up. 

The nature of his extension, in my opinion, seems like a nice reward for an unexpectedly tremendous job this year, rather than Michigan giving him a huge raise and skyrocketing the buyout because they’re scared as hell that they’re going to lose him

[Jet812 122]

3 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm going to sound like an @$$ here... but what does your faith in Dolson have to do with anything? Others keep mentioning this... he's the AD, he's the one making this hire... faith or no faith. It's going to happen. 

You’re right…you do sound like an @$$.

[GP711 647]

4 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Or, maybe he put the work in months ago.

Not maybe, he has been working this for long time

[JaybobHoosier 12,401]

15 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Sam Story dropped into Trilly discord this AM and said he thinks Stevens is over. Dolson met with him on Feb 14th and it didn’t go anywhere. Timing with his daughter is bad.

Drew and May (since his buyout isn’t impossible)still at top of his list before they move on.


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This is kind of been how I thought things would happen. Stevens says no, but by no means are we missing out if we end up with Drew or May. Both of those two are really good coaches who can do great things at IU. I’ve always been hopefully Stevens would come to IU, but just can’t bring myself to get hyped or excited about it. 
 

Landing one of those 3 is a huge win for IU. 

[MikeRoberts 7,598]

17 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Same day Michigan presented Dusty with the extension 

That adds up. If Michigan believed that May was going to become Target #1, they would have to move fast and they did