General Coach Candidate News

[OKHOOSIER 5,892]

Chris Beard circle jerk back on the menu today I see. 

[Chris007 62,527]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:46 PM, maxwell said:

So is this an indication that you've been know to badger folks for information? I don't know anyone who does that? :)

Just a casual conversation over some beers. 

[Artie86 3,495]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:01 PM, ap2345 said:

Beard will not be an option

lol!!!

[8bucks 7,553]

  On 2/10/2025 at 3:53 AM, Stuhoo said:

Okay… hyperbole aside?

McCollum has been absolutely dominant in D2 and has had an excellent 2/3 of a year in the MAC, but that doesn’t remotely address the GM duties, personality juggling (and that includes boosters, agents, fans, media, and the BOT), and quality of opposition coaches he’d deal with in the B1G.

I see the attraction, but a guy like Buzz Williams is a zillion times better choice for me.

This reminded me of that Butler coach so many IU fans wish we had hired.  The best window to hire him was before Crean was hired in 2008.  Stevens became Bulter's coach in 2007 and finished his first year with an incredible 30-4 record including a win over RMK and TT.  I remember that search well and never remember hearing his name mentioned as a candidate.  We needed more proof, which is reasonable, except when you have a "good" coach as Crean was who has up and down years the timing for replacing him with Stevens (after we got more proof) is dependent on down year timing.  

I am not suggesting McCollum is the next Stevens at all.  I would swing away at the real Stevens, Few, TJ, Oats and May but if you miss on those guys then in the next tier, I am definitely talking to him along with some others.  If I talked with him I would need to him to convince me he has the basketball acumen to win, the personality to interact with players, alum and boosters and the drive/grind to succeed.  Those things you cannot see from a coach during a game but are crucial to success at this level.  Why someone thought Archie had those is beyond me. 

[Home Jersey 16,083]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:49 PM, DChoosier said:

The only real thing I’ve learned on this thread, during this coaching search and the last one, is that a lot more private planes fly from the Boston area to Indy/Bloomington than I would have guessed.

How else did you think Stuhoo spends his very generous NIL from BTB? Why make coffee at home when you can jet set to Boston! 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,886]

68% winning pct the last 4 years at TAMU for Buzz

65%+ winning pct his last 4 years at VT too

[kottke 919]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:49 PM, OKHOOSIER said:

Chris Beard circle jerk back on the menu today I see. 

We've got like 40ish days to go, so we will be rotating daily through the candidates. Mondays are the Beard special.

It's going to be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong few weeks.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,886]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:57 PM, kottke said:

We've got like 40ish days to go, so we will be rotating daily through the candidates. Mondays are the Beard special.

It's going to be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong few weeks.

I prefer these weeks compared to the weeks of "start of the season until now", personally. 

Listening to posters whine every time there is a subject being discussed they don't like is more annoying than repeated information, though. 

[jimsorgi 1,134]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:26 PM, jermhoosierfan said:

Just to pile on here, the dental assistant where I go to the dentist here in Evansville has a cousin married to Dusty May, and my dentist is a very small time donor from what I can tell and went to IU Dental school with a son who was on the IU baseball team.  That being said, she didn't have any information from her cousin on any family plans to move back to the Bloomington area.  My dentist didn't have any information either as I asked him just before he shot me full of Novocain before the "small" cavity he was fixing.  I tried to find out some information for the group. 

Giving a yourself a cavity to try to pry information from Dusty May's cousin's wife while she was jamming tools in your mouth is dedication.

 

Kudos.

[Pagoda 4,576]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:56 PM, 8bucks said:

This reminded me of that Butler coach so many IU fans wish we had hired.  The best window to hire him was before Crean was hired in 2008.  Stevens became Bulter's coach in 2007 and finished his first year with an incredible 30-4 record including a win over RMK and TT.  I remember that search well and never remember hearing his name mentioned as a candidate.  We needed more proof, which is reasonable, except when you have a "good" coach as Crean was who has up and down years the timing for replacing him with Stevens (after we got more proof) is dependent on down year timing.  

I am not suggesting McCollum is the next Stevens at all.  I would swing away at the real Stevens, Few, TJ, Oats and May but if you miss on those guys then in the next tier, I am definitely talking to him along with some others.  If I talked with him I would need to him to convince me he has the basketball acumen to win, the personality to interact with players, alum and boosters and the drive/grind to succeed.  Those things you cannot see from a coach during a game but are crucial to success at this level.  Why someone thought Archie had those is beyond me. 

It's hard to figure out which coach will blow up and be awesome, and it can be risky, but that's what a great AD can do...

[Sobchak_Security 206]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:14 PM, GP711 said:

fwiw, any Beard smoke that is there is coming from the agent side because beard wants the job. It's a hard no from the athletic department side, he was passed on before het got arrested. 

Correct.  For all claiming you have to get this hire right, taking a chance on a purported alcoholic with domestic violence in his background is a serious roll of the dice.  And one the administration just won’t take.

[TadQueasy 2,582]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:55 PM, Artie86 said:

lol!!!

Woah.  I forgot about Hector Salamanca being in that movie!  

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  On 2/10/2025 at 2:45 PM, DChoosier said:

If you were truly dedicated you would show up at their house with a suitcase, with clothing to last up to 30 days, and get some info.

Real photo of Chris working to get us an update...

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 811]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:43 PM, Home Jersey said:

Hell with it, give us Buzz and let’s roll…

He would probably be in my top 5…. He earned a lot of respect from me for 1. Wearing the Mizzou cancer shirt at the Mizzou game and 2. After his post game press conference he gave advice to Mizzou journalism students.

[Artie86 3,495]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:22 PM, ap2345 said:

There's other issues there besides the arrest

.....Coach Buttermaker! ;)

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  On 2/10/2025 at 3:03 PM, Pagoda said:

It's hard to figure out which coach will blow up and be awesome, and it can be risky, but that's what a great AD can do...

An analogy, IMO...

Picking out a great coach from the lower ranks is a lot like betting on a penny stock.

For the situation IU is in, we're looking for a blue chip guy to come in and pay dividends right away.

There could be higher upside to buying in early, but we need stability and good yield right away.

...In a different cycle I'd love taking a flyer on McCollum. Don't think it's in the cards this time around though.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,886]

  On 2/10/2025 at 3:05 PM, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

He would probably be in my top 5…. He earned a lot of respect from me for 1. Wearing the Mizzou cancer shirt at the Mizzou game and 2. After his post game press conference he gave advice to Mizzou journalism students.

he's got a lot of good stuff.... the "Country Roads" was great, done a couple of cool things with his teams honoring veterans. 

[Hoosierfan2017 24,890]

Every coach comes with risks, even Brad Stevens. Beard’s risks are entirely off the court. There’s no question he’d come here and win a lot of games. Just depends on which risks you’re willing to take, I suppose. 

[Chris007 62,527]

  On 2/10/2025 at 3:03 PM, jimsorgi said:

Giving a yourself a cavity to try to pry information from Dusty May's cousin's wife while she was jamming tools in your mouth is dedication.

 

Kudos.

That is how we roll here on BTB. Have you done anything to make IUBB better today?

[jimsorgi 1,134]

  On 2/10/2025 at 3:11 PM, Chris007 said:

That is how we roll here on BTB. Have you done anything to make IUBB better today?

It's still early in the day to find a way to help!