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[IndyResident16 567]

2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

It’s our pastime. I think it finally surpassed basketball in the Archie era. 

Imagine hiring a competent coach and no longer worrying about looking for a new coach every 3-4 seasons. Man the 80’s and 90’s were such better times, in more ways than one.

[Rico 3,041]

53 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Didn't stop Rick Pitino, John Calipari, or Fred Hoiberg.

Lon Kruger?  Is that you?

[Rico 3,041]

32 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Those guys like to recruit, Stevens didn’t. All three had a cup of coffee in the NBA and had no other choice but to return to college. Stevens in several interviews has commented on such. 

Lon Kruger?  Is that you again?

[Hoosierfan1901 6,294]

26 minutes ago, str8baller said:

It’s our pastime. I think it finally surpassed basketball in the Archie era. 

I’ve seen 5 different coaches since I actually started watching IU during my late grade school years. Seems like I am always expecting another round every 4-5 years 

[Rico 3,041]

16 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

I’ve seen 5 different coaches since I actually started watching IU during my late grade school years. Seems like I am always expecting another round every 4-5 years 

How many coaches has Purdue had in that same time frame?

[BGleas 7,903]

4 hours ago, IndyResident16 said:

From what I’ve always been told by the one source whom I consider to be reliable, Stevens met with a few prominent figures at IU over dinner WHILE the Celtics were in Indianapolis to gauge interest in which he emphatically told them no thanks. This actually happened while Archie Miller was still employed.

After Archie was fired, IU offered up a Hail Mary contract to at least say they tried knowing full and well he was going to reject it. Stevens to this day still denies that offer was ever made.

Who knows what happened, but he’s not here and not ever coming here and you just don’t turn that kind of money down if you’re legitimately interested in returning college. Just like as an athletic department, you don’t go from legitimately making an offer to make BS the highest paid coach in the game to turning around and hiring 62 year old Mike Woodson 48 hours later. Theres no way Dolson went from BS to spinning the wheel and landing on Mike Woodson like that.

Yeah, Stevens was never coming to IU the last cycle. He's an NBA guy at this point. 

Like I said earlier, the person I spoke to in the Celtics org didn't even hesitate with an emphatic "no" when I asked if he thought Stevens would ever go back to the college game. 

It was a flatout no. This is not a guy that was having a family debate about coming back to the college game, even at IU. 

[HoosierTrav 7,886]

1 hour ago, IndyResident16 said:

Those guys like to recruit, Stevens didn’t. All three had a cup of coffee in the NBA and had no other choice but to return to college. Stevens in several interviews has commented on such. 

 

[Hoosierfan1901 6,294]

9 minutes ago, Rico said:

How many coaches has Purdue had in that same time frame?

Only Keady and Painter

[IndyResident16 567]

12 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Yeah, Stevens was never coming to IU the last cycle. He's an NBA guy at this point. 

Like I said earlier, the person I spoke to in the Celtics org didn't even hesitate with an emphatic "no" when I asked if he thought Stevens would ever go back to the college game. 

It was a flatout no. This is not a guy that was having a family debate about coming back to the college game, even at IU. 

But Chris said so though 

[IndyResident16 567]

3 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

You show your colors all the time. For someone to throw stones and act like someone knows nothing while you know a ton is comical? Wrong? Sad? 
 

You are same guy last year who went on and on about how our facilities are great compared to top 25 programs, how recruits don’t even care, etc. that told me all I needed to know.  IU has more to worry about than the next coach. The football situation seems there is hope. 
 

I can be very direct, try and prove my side, argue, etc. but, I have on here and will again admit when I am wrong. You don’t. You are always right. Just ask you. 

Your melt down on Twitter when Fland committed to Kentucky was legitimately the hardest I had laughed in awhile. And then I remembered you were over the age of 40 and laughed some more.

[Trish 11,566]

20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Only Keady and Painter

And how many times have they lost to high seeds? 

[IndyResident16 567]

11 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

How hard is this?  It isn’t hearsay - he said it to a National reporter like I was no big deal. He thinks he can “control it” - alcoholic reasoning 101.

if you had to make a 100k bet and you had 2 options - he ends up in some sort of trouble again, you know, when the stress ramps up, or he stays clean for rest of his life. Which bet do you take? 
 

No need to answer.

Come March, Beard will have taken his 4th different team to the NCAAT. When he’s hired away after this season, next year will be the 5th program. Only 3 other coaches in the history of college basketball have accomplished that feat. Beard will have done it in 10 years. 
 

Maybe more coaches should start drinking beer.

[IndyResident16 567]

4 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

You still don’t get it. Nobody cares. You could tell us he would win first year. We won’t want him. When I say we, that is 95% of the fanbase. There goes your NIL. 

real classy to say an alcoholic should drink more beer. 

As opposed to somebody eagerly awaiting his downfall? He likes beer, so what. He’s damn good at what he does. Simple fact.

NIL means nothing if you don’t have a coach. Chris Beard and his Ole Miss squad would kick the living crap out of our pampered NIL mercenaries. And he’d take Woody’s players and beat him with them in round 2.
 

95% of this fan base wants a winner and wouldn’t blink an eye if Chris Beard was hired. Unfortunately, the other 5% primarily lives on boards like these. 

[rcbowla 7,119]

Trust me, I get it, it takes two to tango. But it’s a lot easier to get a guy who wants to be hereas opposed to one who doesn’t.
All it takes is for one light bulb to turn on and he’s one call away. Until then, this program will continue to fall further and further into college basketball oblivion and you’ll still have people questioning as to why.

You're right here. Unfortunately, you're also rooting for the wrong team/admin. They won't hire Beard, Pearl or really anyone who has touched the gray area.

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[HinnyHoosier 4,985]

Whoa. The natives are restless tonight. Haven't caught up on everything, but I will.

But if we're talking about a true alcoholic who still drinks alcohol, you can almost guarantee that person will have problems again. It may not be anything major that gets a breaking news headline, but you can darn well be sure it will affect relationships and job performance at one time or another. That is IF he is truly an alcoholic still tasting the sauce. 

I've seen it/them a hundred times. 

[IndyResident16 567]

5 hours ago, Chris007 said:

It wasn’t 10 million a year either. It was 10 years 70 million. He told the Celtics what was offered and Ainge told him he was retiring soon. 3 months later as you said he was elevated. 

7 yr/$70 million

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2021/04/18/iu-basketball-set-offer-celtics-brad-stevens-7-years-70-million-per-report/7274792002/

 

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

5 hours ago, Scotty R said:

There is more to this job than winning. I am embarrassed as a long time IU fan that any fan would ever want Chris Beard as our coach. He is a women beater and an alcoholic 

There’s 20,000 alcoholics in Bloomington he’d fit right in. 

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

4 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Let's be for real... This school hasn't taken basketball seriously since the early 90s. If you ask me, on purpose. But... A truly serious program would have told Mike Davis to find employment elsewhere or try to stay on staff because we are hiring Pitino and not you. CLEARLY, ANY staff that cared would have told the NCAA to shove one up their arse when the Sampson stuff happened(see UNC or Kansas). Oh there is a prodigy coach at Butler that just went to back to back titles? Oh let's not hire him because we are scared of losing Zeller? Oh that coach also recruited Zeller like crazy at Butler? Well let's just keep our coach that won 28 games the past 3 years instead. That'll never come back to haunt us...

 

Moral of the story... Not a serious program at all. They just want the money. They don't care about the fans or the product, just your money.

In the 80’s Harry Gonso led a blue ribbon committee that hired Tom Ehrlich as IU president, the relationship with the university and basketball program soured to the point of Bob knight threatening to leave…. The administration was humiliated and held meetings on how they could actively de emphasize the basketball program in favor of academics. It’s the revenge of the nerds Plotline for 15 years. And they’ve never changed in the other direction. As far as the Mike Davis years, I analyzed every coach that made it to a national title from “afterglow” Davis, Kevin Ollie, Tubbie Smith, Bruce Weber. On average those coaches stayed 6 years. So we aren’t out of the norm. The issue is the firing of Sampson, and thus power vacuum That was filled by another blue ribbon committee by Harry Gonso which hired the likes of Fred Glass and Tom Crean. McRobbie could have held things accountable but he was so bad that the people who solicit donations at IU actively had to hide big donations from McRobie out of fear he’d interject and lose them the donation. So the dysfunction goes back to the 80’s and infected all the way up to the BoTs

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Also, I said on this board that we should have hired beard if Stevens said no. But was told the admin wouldn’t touch him with a 10ft pole.  That’s why I changed my avatar 3 years ago to Beard. Instead we hired woody. Reggie miller said he ran the best practice he’s ever seen. Remove his domestic dispute and he’s the one of if not the best coach in the NCAA, and he could be hired. If anyone can argue he’s not a top 5 coach in the ncaa, WITHOUT bringing up the domestic dispute I’m all ears. Please, I’d love to hear your reasoning.

 

also side note. Do other schools have to have boosters pay half the coaches salary? 

[IndyResident16 567]

5 hours ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Also, I said on this board that we should have hired beard if Stevens said no. But was told the admin wouldn’t touch him with a 10ft pole.  That’s why I changed my avatar 3 years ago to Beard. Instead we hired woody. Reggie miller said he ran the best practice he’s ever seen. Remove his domestic dispute and he’s the one of if not the best coach in the NCAA, and he could be hired. If anyone can argue he’s not a top 5 coach in the ncaa, WITHOUT bringing up the domestic dispute I’m all ears. Please, I’d love to hear your reasoning.

 

also side note. Do other schools have to have boosters pay half the coaches salary? 

I know what you’re saying, but what does his domestic dispute have to do with his ability to coach? It’s a case closed, book shut type deal where all charges were dropped with no further legal proceedings that could jeopardize his availability on the sideline. 
 

And to your second point, coaching salaries and buyouts are donor funded at almost every school and in a lot of cases up to 100%.