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2 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

How often does a head coach in waiting work out anyways? I’m struggling to think of any examples in recent times. Izzo I think but that was before my times. If we got Beilein I’d rather him stabilize the job for 6-7 years when we’re in a good position to hire someone better if we can’t get anyone now. 

The guy who won the Big Ten the previous season was a HC in waiting. 

[HoosierTrav 7,896]

8 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Im on the muss bus so go oral roberts

I’ve changed my tune on the guys who are still playing or were in the tournament. I originally wanted Beard most but now I’m thinking that Musselman is perfect for this job. 

[Brass Cannon 24,842]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Coach in waiting really only works if the guy is going to quickly take over.  With Painter it was a one year wait.  A guy in waiting can very easily find another head coaching job if the team is doing well.  And if they aren't, he might not want the job.

Then you hire another coach in waiting or designate a current assistant. It’s more about having continuity of system and recruiting.  So you don’t have to rebuild 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,503]

1 minute ago, HoosierTrav said:

I’ve changed my tune on the guys who are still playing or were in the tournament. I originally wanted Beard most but now I’m thinking that Musselman is perfect for this job. 

Musselman has the personality for it. The IU coach is under a constant spotlight no matter who they are. Musselman seems like a guy who would enjoy that kind of attention. 

[Uspshoosier 45,880]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Coach in waiting really only works if the guy is going to quickly take over.  With Painter it was a one year wait.  A guy in waiting can very easily find another head coaching job if the team is doing well.  And if they aren't, he might not want the job.

Hopkins was always Cuse coach in waiting.   Bohiem kept coming back so he ended up taking the Washington job.    Dutcher was Fishers coach in waiting at San Diego st and that one is an example of the coach in waiting working 

[Unexpectedflash 1,069]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Hopkins was always Cuse coach in waiting.   Bohiem kept coming back so he ended up taking the Washington job.    Dutcher was Fishers coach in waiting at San Diego st and that one is an example of the coach in waiting working 

Hopkins is an example of why it doesn’t work. He just went 5-21 at Washington. Extremely underwhelming year last year with two NBA players.Feel like there’s a big jump in responsibility from being an assistant to head coach that I’d rather the guy show that he can handle it at a smaller school first.

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Musselman has the personality for it. The IU coach is under a constant spotlight no matter who they are. Musselman seems like a guy who would enjoy that kind of attention. 

Creaning intensifies

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23 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Loyola has a good chance to make the Final Four. If they do, I'd be surprised if Moser leaves for another job. Who was the last coach to make the Final Four and leave for another job the next season? Roy?

IF Moser does lead Loyola to another Final Four, I can get behind IU hiring him. My only point is that if they lost to Illinois we wouldn't be talking about him. That being said if he can get some wins this weekend (beat Oregon State and knock off Houston or Syracuse) that makes him a lot more attractive of a hire. It's hard to make a final four. Making two in four years is pretty good. 

Maybe this isn’t bad that it opened our eyes to him though.

 

one thing that might make it easier for him to leave is this team has several seniors. I think 5 of their top 6 scorers are seniors.

Another interesting note, I thought, there are 3 indiana kids on that team. We, of course, all knew Damezi, but there is the Hall Kid from Greenfield, and then Will Alcock from Zionsville.

[Demo 20,233]

11 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I often tend to post cartoons or make jokes and probably too often for some of you.  But what follows is no joke and something that really does concern me.

As a board, we are terribly splintered.  Not just in terms of who the next coach should be but also should it be an IU guy or not.  When the next coach is announced, some of us are going to be extremely disappointed and some even angry.  Emotions will run high and we will have a posting frenzy.  It's perfectly OK to vent frustration over the selection but let's keep it civil and not let our board go into a full attack mode against the new coach or against each other.   I'm still putting my chips on Dolson to make the right decision for the long term and not just win a popularity contest from btb.

 

I’ve told you before to keep you’re reasonableness and nuance to yourself, but you never learn. 

But, since you’re unassailably right and all, I’ll let this one slide.......

[Zachetology 282]

24 minutes ago, Iubravos said:

It's going to be Musselman Oats or Beilein.  

Based on any information?

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Hopkins was always Cuse coach in waiting.   Bohiem kept coming back so he ended up taking the Washington job.    Dutcher was Fishers coach in waiting at San Diego st and that one is an example of the coach in waiting working 

I don't know the history of Dutcher -- how long was he an assistant and how long was he considered their coach in waiting?  I know a lot of guys become head coaches after being an assistant at that school, but how many are hired as quote-unquote coach in waiting?

Of course, at Michigan State, they are guaranteed not to hire at least one of their associate head coaches after Izzo retires. :)

[Hoosierfan2017 21,503]

1 minute ago, Dizz said:

Creaning intensifies

I don't really get Crean vibes from Musselman from the little bit that I've seen of him. They both have big personalities, but I don't get 'weirdo' from Musselman like I do Crean. 

[Uspshoosier 45,880]

2 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Hopkins is an example of why it doesn’t work. He just went 5-21 at Washington. Extremely underwhelming year last year with two NBA players.Feel like there’s a big jump in responsibility from being an assistant to head coach that I’d rather the guy show that he can handle it at a smaller school first.

Also be an example of not going overboard on a coaches first year.    He got them to the tournament and I remember people on here saying maybe we should of hired him because of the success he had early.   A couple years later and it’s a dumpster fire 

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Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I don't really get Crean vibes from Musselman from the little bit that I've seen of him. They both have big personalities, but I don't get 'weirdo' from Musselman like I do Crean. 

Musselman is cheesy but I don’t think he’s weird like Crean. By the end of Creans tenure he became a meme. 

[Uspshoosier 45,880]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

I don't know the history of Dutcher -- how long was he an assistant and how long was he considered their coach in waiting?  I know a lot of guys become head coaches after being an assistant at that school, but how many are hired as quote-unquote coach in waiting?

Of course, at Michigan State, they are guaranteed not to hire at least one of their associate head coaches after Izzo retires. :)

He was Fischer’s right hand man for a very long time.  Followed him from Michigan to San Diego St 

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1 minute ago, Zachetology said:

Based on any information?

Unfortunately, no. Just think he is waiting for a couple coaches to become available. Hopefully their agent has said we're interested but he has to wait until their season is over.  Then if we fail when when happens we'll have Beilein as a fall back.  JMO

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7 minutes ago, Iubravos said:

Unfortunately, no. Just think he is waiting for a couple coaches to become available. Hopefully their agent has said we're interested but he has to wait until their season is over.  Then if we fail when when happens we'll have Beilein as a fall back.  JMO

This is my working theory too.

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We really need Arkansas and Alabama to lose this weekend.  

[JaybobHoosier 11,852]

28 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I often tend to post cartoons or make jokes and probably too often for some of you.  But what follows is no joke and something that really does concern me.

As a board, we are terribly splintered.  Not just in terms of who the next coach should be but also should it be an IU guy or not.  When the next coach is announced, some of us are going to be extremely disappointed and some even angry.  Emotions will run high and we will have a posting frenzy.  It's perfectly OK to vent frustration over the selection but let's keep it civil and not let our board go into a full attack mode against the new coach or against each other.   I'm still putting my chips on Dolson to make the right decision for the long term and not just win a popularity contest from btb.

 

Well said and thank you!!! The worst thing we can do is bash the new coach and not support them. Feelings aside, we need to try to come together and support who is over the men’s basketball program. 

[Josh 12,649]

28 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I often tend to post cartoons or make jokes and probably too often for some of you.  But what follows is no joke and something that really does concern me.

As a board, we are terribly splintered.  Not just in terms of who the next coach should be but also should it be an IU guy or not.  When the next coach is announced, some of us are going to be extremely disappointed and some even angry.  Emotions will run high and we will have a posting frenzy.  It's perfectly OK to vent frustration over the selection but let's keep it civil and not let our board go into a full attack mode against the new coach or against each other.   I'm still putting my chips on Dolson to make the right decision for the long term and not just win a popularity contest from btb.

 

Sorry, but if he hires Archie Miller again I'm burning this place down.