General Coach Candidate News

[IU Scott 2,375]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

With Bob Knight's players. He's made it past the first round of the tournament twice in 19 years since then. If we want to hire an IU guy then let's just rehire Bob Knight and see what he can do in his less than ideal health. 

There is no Krabby patty secret formula given only to former IU players that the next coach must have to succeed here. IU won in the past because IU had the best coach in college basketball. That is the formula IU should try to get as close to as possible. I don't think there is an IU guy out there who can do that. 

Well Oats is winning with other coaches players for the most part

[Trish 12,760]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

Has Archie even gotten a sniff from any other teams? 

He's taking the year off and waiting for Pittsburgh to open up next year.

Have to collect the IU check's before he accepts a lower paycheck next year. 

[Unexpectedflash 1,334]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Well Oats is winning with other coaches players for the most part

No he's not. Petty and Jones were from the last coach. All the other key players are transfers or recruits from last year for the most part. Oats is going to be a star. I would just love it to be with us. 

[FritzIam4IU 362]

4 minutes ago, Evariste Galois said:

Musselman's NBA experience is significantly less impressive than Woodson's. 

I would be very excited about Beard (and even Musselman for that matter - or Oats - I think we have a great list of "hypothetical" candidates.) But let's be honest, if he did not have the RMK connection, there would not be any talk about him coming to IU either. 

My only point, is that I definitely could see why Dolson might decide that Woodson is the best option out of all them. 

I was also including Musselman's NCAA coaching as well as NBA.

[IU Scott 2,375]

3 minutes ago, brandct said:

Yes, and would you hire Musselman based off his NBA experience alone? Or would you look at the success he has had at the NCAA level?

Musselman was 20-12 last year at Arkansas which was Archie's record last year.  So we are talking about Musselman over one great year at a power 5 conference.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

Just now, Treesh said:

Ehh. I think Frank and Race would've stayed. We could be chasing the transfer market right now ourselves as their as some nice players out there. 

The Northeastern kid is deciding this weekend. Waiting too long and we might have a JV team out there next season!

Ala

Kyle Taber,, Danny Moore, Tom "THE BANGER" Pritchard, Verdell Jones, Matt Roth, Brett Finklemeier, Jeremiah Rivers, Nick Williams, Devan "incarcerated" Dumas, Malik Story, TIJAN JOBE

[Evariste Galois 584]

7 minutes ago, brandct said:

A guy that has actually produced at the NCAA level is less of a "flavor of the month" then someone who has never coached in the NCAA.

If it is only recent, then that is literally the definition of "flavor of the month". 

Edit: To be clear, I am not knocking Musselman. I also think he could be a great hire.

[Trish 12,760]

Just now, bleedhoosier said:

Ala

Kyle Taber,, Danny Moore, Tom "THE BANGER" Pritchard, Verdell Jones, Matt Roth, Brett Finklemeier, Jeremiah Rivers, Nick Williams, Devan "incarcerated" Dumas, Malik Story, TIJAN JOBE

How the hell do you remember that entire roster LOL

 

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3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Well Oats is winning with other coaches players for the most part

Since you keep saying this I decided to actually do research. There are 3 carry overs from when he was not coach and one of them is averaging less than 1 point a game. So yeah he is winning with other coaches players......

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

Just now, Treesh said:

How the hell do you remember that entire roster LOL

 

You never forget the darkest moment of your life..

[brandct 630]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Musselman was 20-12 last year at Arkansas which was Archie's record last year.  So we are talking about Musselman over one great year at a power 5 conference.

20-12 in his FIRST year at a school not his third year.... He is also in the sweet 16 in his second year not sitting at home like we was. Great comparisons keep them coming.

[AZ Hoosier 9,466]

24 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Common sense. We're adding fuel to the fire with all these coaching rumors. 

Better programs and coaches will reach out and snag these guys. Meanwhile we're coachless while big transfers wonder elsewhere. 

So what's your solution, Obi Wan? You want to re-hire Archie? Let the process run it's course... and stop being such a fatalist...

[Unexpectedflash 1,334]

Oats is where the game of basketball is heading. I know lots of old schoolers want the Bobby Knight motion offense again but that's just not what basketball is anymore. Oats is one of the most innovative coaches in college basketball. I want him badly. 

[Capt. Crimson 3,750]

Just now, Unexpectedflash said:

Oats is where the game of basketball is heading. I know lots of old schoolers want the Bobby Knight motion offense again but that's just not what the game of basketball is anymore. Oats is one of the most innovative coaches in college basketball. I want him badly. 

He's happy at Alabama. He already crossed himself off the list.

 

[IU Scott 2,375]

Just now, Capt. Crimson said:

He's happy at Alabama. He already crossed himself off the list.

 

With a huge buyout as well

[TadQueasy 1,464]

Just now, Unexpectedflash said:

Oats is where the game of basketball is heading. I know lots of old schoolers want the Bobby Knight motion offense again but that's just not what the game of basketball is anymore. Oats is one of the most innovative coaches in college basketball. I want him badly. 

What exactly does he do that is so innovative?  

[Golfman25 6,295]

10 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Let's just hope the new coach -- whoever he is -- can persuade Race and Armaan to stay. I s'pose I should say Stewart as well, but having not seen him play at IU, it's difficult to miss something you never had. 

If those guys do go -- and TJD departs -- the new coach will be looking at an empty cupboard. Not quite like what Crean got when he arrived, but sheesh ... 

He could inherit a roster of six scholarship players: Leal, Lander, Galloway, Geronimo, Jerome and Rob. Throw in Brunk if he stays and Duncomb if he comes and you get eight. Some decent players, but that's not a B1G roster. 

So just spitballing, what if a guy like Woodson could get TJD to stay.  He would definitely have the clout to say "kid, you're not quite ready for the NBA, but give me a year and I'll make you a first rounder."   

[Trish 12,760]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

So what's your solution, Obi Wan? You want to re-hire Archie? Let the process run it's course... and stop being such a fatalist...

Well first, Scott needs to tell me his list. Tell me whose he honestly considering and who is willing to come.

At that point, I'll decide what's best for Indiana Basketball. 

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4 minutes ago, Evariste Galois said:

If it is only recent, then that is literally the definition of "flavor of the month". 

Edit: To be clear, I am not knocking Musselman. I also think he could be a great hire.

He has been pretty successful the last 6 years in the NCAA. I am not saying he is exactly what I want, but I would take him every day of the week and twice on Sunday over Woodson.

[IU Scott 2,375]

Just now, TadQueasy said:

What exactly does he do that is so innovative?  

He uses analytics which has ruined the game of basketball.  When you take half the court away to defend it makes it easier to guard you.  It is all 3's and layups and nothing else.  if you aren't hitting your 3's then you are in bad shape.