General Coach Candidate News

[Chris007 55,721]

3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I'll shoot you over my resume to put on Scott's desk while you're there. I don't want the head job. I want the Team Analyst and Recruitment job. lol

Well we'll just sit in his office, until he gives you a job

[Trish 12,760]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

We''ll we will just sit in his office, until he gives you a job

I'm all for this. Maybe we'll hear some phone conversations. 

[iu eyedoc 3,404]

Someone give me some context for the Woodson hate. He is a well respected, defensive minded coach that, by the player interviews posted on here seems to hold players( even NBA players) accountable. His record as the Hawks HC overall was mediocre, but the team improved every year to the point of 53-29 in his last season. As Knicks HC, he coached them to their only 1st place finish in the Atlantic division  since 1993 and most , wins since 1994. HeII, his 37 wins in his 2nd season are more wins than any NYK team he didn't coach since 2003. He isn't my first choice, but it seems that a lot of dislike for him, much like like for others is just a lot of posters parroting others.

I get he would need some strong recruiters, but I don't see the reason for all the angst towards him as HC

If I am wrong, I don't watch NBA, so I might well be, please point to what I am missing.

[LamarCheeks 20,988]

I'm not sure if anybody knows what Dolson is doing. Maybe they do, maybe not. 

But if we are indeed hiring Mike Woodson -- to me, it's a very uninspiring hire. I was skeptical of Stevens coming and thought Beard was a long shot, but I would've been OK with Beilein or Matta (if healthy). But apparently Matta isn't interested? 

Anyway, I should also say I thought Moren and Allen were uninspiring hires -- so I've been wrong before (lots of times).

[Trish 12,760]

We're really still discussing a guy who doesn't have a winning percentage in the NBA?

Not even a winning percentage in the playoffs? 

Who has only won coach of the month ONE time?

Who has never recruited high school players?

Who has never coached college basketball? 

WHO JUST TURNED 64!!!

[Kentuckysucks 3,503]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

We're really still discussing a guy who doesn't have a winning percentage in the NBA?

Not even a winning percentage in the playoffs? 

Who has only won coach of the month ONE time?

Who has never recruited high school players?

Who has never coached college basketball? 

WHO JUST TURNED 64!!!

He's not going to be hired.  If Dolson is speaking with him it's to get input not to interview. Stop the nonsense.

[brandct 630]

Just now, iu eyedoc said:

Someone give me some context for the Woodson hate. He is a well respected, defensive minded coach that, by the player interviews posted on here seems to hold players( even NBA players) accountable. His record as the Hawks HC overall was mediocre, but the team improved every year to the point of 53-29 in his last season. As Knicks HC, he coached them to their only 1st place finish in the Atlantic division  since 1993 and most , wins since 1994. HeII, his 37 wins in his 2nd season are more wins than any NYK team he didn't coach since 2003. He isn't my first choice, but it seems that a lot of dislike for him, much like like for others is just a lot of posters parroting others.

I get he would need some strong recruiters, but I don't see the reason for all the angst towards him as HC

If I am wrong, I don't watch NBA, so I might well be, please point to what I am missing.

He is in his 60s. He has never coached in the NCAA. He has never recruited. We do not know how his coaching would translate to college because in the NBA you are dealing with the top 1% not trying to find the top 1%. Kids today would have no clue who he was when he played in college or the NBA. I just think he would be very underwhelming.

[Wavychips 17]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

We're really still discussing a guy who doesn't have a winning percentage in the NBA?

Not even a winning percentage in the playoffs? 

Who has only won coach of the month ONE time?

Who has never recruited high school players?

Who has never coached college basketball? 

WHO JUST TURNED 64!!!

Where did he go to school? That’s the only thing I care about

[OKHOOSIER 5,082]

10 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Didn't we have a poster that managed an airport or something along those lines that explicitly told us not to even bother with flights? A butcher tells me that knowing the name of the cow won't make my beef any better then I don't care about the cow's name......but that's just me I guess

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It was me, and yes while following flights on flight aware could I suppose give something away, it’s highly unlikely. Filed flight plans in the general aviation world mean nothing. I could call a flight service station right now and file a flight plan from Or to Btown from anywhere, never show and no one would say anything. Unless kept active by the local tower the flight plan simply falls out 2 hours after the original departure time. Also, if you have the money and want the privacy, and own the aircraft, you can pay to have the tail number and flight plans hidden from public view. If IU owns their own aircraft or has been borrowing one from a billionaire donor, 100% its flight data is hidden. Mark Cuban type people don’t fly on their jets and publicly file for joe blow on flight aware to see. Just FWIW. 

[Chris007 55,721]

3 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm not sure if anybody knows what Dolson is doing. Maybe they do, maybe not. 

But if we are indeed hiring Mike Woodson -- to me, it's a very uninspiring hire. I was skeptical of Stevens coming and thought Beard was a long shot, but I would've been OK with Beilein or Matta (if healthy). But apparently Matta isn't interested? 

Anyway, I should also say I thought Moren and Allen were uninspiring hires -- so I've been wrong before (lots of times).

I was told the first story on Matta was the correct one

[GreatMcCracken’sGhost 106]

14 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Didn't we have a poster that managed an airport or something along those lines that explicitly told us not to even bother with flights? A butcher tells me that knowing the name of the cow won't make my beef any better then I don't care about the cow's name......but that's just me I guess

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Flight logs are reliable, but what people read into them is not. There is a reason people get excited about a "flight from New York," for example: Lots of people live there, so it could be someone cool, and LOTS of flights come from there, so plenty of opportunity to pretend it's something interesting. But odds are it's just one of 10 flights from New York that will arrive this week.

On the other hand, if you watch for true outliers, you might spy something. During the BS stuff, flights from Hanscom outside Boston were really interesting. Earlier this week, there was a direct flight from Bloomington to the Bahamas. Very rare. Neither of those things turned out to be useful, but at least they were unique.

[Chris007 55,721]

Just now, Wavychips said:

Where did he go to school? That’s the only thing I care about

Broad Ripple I believe

[LamarCheeks 20,988]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I was told the first story on Matta was the correct one

Which story was that? 

[Trish 12,760]

1 minute ago, Wavychips said:

Where did he go to school? That’s the only thing I care about

Indiana State! 

[Chris007 55,721]

1 minute ago, GreatMcCracken’sGhost said:

Flight logs are reliable, but what people read into them is not. There is a reason people get excited about a "flight from New York," for example: Lots of people live there, so it could be someone cool, and LOTS of flights come from there, so plenty of opportunity to pretend it's something interesting. But odds are it's just one of 10 flights from New York that will arrive this week.

On the other hand, if you watch for true outliers, you might spy something. During the BS stuff, flights from Hanscom outside Boston were really interesting. Earlier this week, there was a direct flight from Bloomington to the Bahamas. Very rare. Neither of those things turned out to be useful, but at least they were unique.

I'm not sure if we know that flight from the Bahamas was useful or not. 

[Chris007 55,721]

Just now, LamarCheeks said:

Which story was that? 

We offered and he failed the physical

[Josh 12,948]

23 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

The mood swings in this thread are every bit as bad as my wife's when she went through, well you know what, but don't tell her I said that.

I watch my 6 year old daughter's mood change 3 times as she walks across the room.  This thread is similar but I don't have to duck for cover

[bigrod 2,978]

1 minute ago, brandct said:

He is in his 60s. He has never coached in the NCAA. He has never recruited. We do not know how his coaching would translate to college because in the NBA you are dealing with the top 1% not trying to find the top 1%. Kids today would have no clue who he was when he played in college or the NBA. I just think he would be very underwhelming.

I totally get what you are saying, and I can't honestly say I disagree. I will say there have been many successful college coaches who don't succeed in the NBA. Also, none of what we think really matters. What matters is if whoever they hire is successful. We can think all the terrible things we want about why the coach was hired, but at the end of the day, if he wins no one will care.

[Trish 12,760]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

We offered and he failed the physical

Explains why Scott shut down that rumor so quickly! 

[brandct 630]

Just now, bigrod said:

I totally get what you are saying, and I can't honestly say I disagree. I will say there have been many successful college coaches who don't succeed in the NBA. Also, none of what we think really matters. What matters is if whoever they hire is successful. We can think all the terrible things we want about why the coach was hired, but at the end of the day, if he wins no one will care.

You are correct, but you could be putting him in a very touchy situation. Could you imagine what the look would be if IU fans turned on an IU legend. It is one thing to turn on Crean, and Archie it is something totally different to turn on someone who is a legend at the school.