General Coach Candidate News

[iu-dl 1,470]

My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett. And I'd be perfectly fine with any of them.

Realistic to unrealistic: Musselman, Matta, Moser, Beard, Stevens, Bennett, Oats

Big fat disgusting screaming to the high heavens NO: Any "forced" IU guy. Alford, Woodson, Lewis as HC (assistant yes), Fife (assistant yes), USC coach, Beilein, Oregon coach, and I don't particularly love Drew. It's my moralistic ways that bother me about a few of these guys.

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5 minutes ago, Bankshot said:

Who are the "others" we're back channeling to according to those guys?

The most notable is Muss but I’m not sure how serious talks have gone. There’s been some talk of Woodson, Matta, Beilein, and some on Fife. I think there’s more but I can’t keep track. There’s been a lot of names but nothing seems to have really heated up yet.

[hper50 1,250]

Doesn’t Alford have a pretty big buyout?

[Kentuckysucks 2,298]

Just now, hper50 said:

Doesn’t Alford have a pretty big buyout?

$6M I think 

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ALL ABOARD next stop B-Town 

I hope

 

[Hoosierfan1901 6,378]

10 minutes ago, Treesh said:

 

 

That’s related to Franklin

[rcbowla 7,138]

I mentioned this earlier. The NBA has a coaching fraternity. You hire your buddies because you guys are friends, you coached with each other in Dallas or Detroit, etc. There's a reason why there is an abundance of older NBA assistants, front office members, etc. 
Woodson has a history with Thibds, not to mention he has a history with the Knicks. Prior to the current job, he took two years off for whatever reason after leaving the Clippers (without PG + Kawhi obviously). Thibds called his buddy up, boom. 

Right so doesn't matter if you know the difference between defensive 3 seconds and an 8 second call as long as you're good fishing buddy. Come on man. Maybe they all stay in the league because they are very good at what they do which is why they are coaching at the absolute highest level.

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[IU Scott 2,375]

I am including myself in this statement that our fan base is just nuts.  We take every little tidbit that is tweeted and take it as gospel and freak out about it if it doesn't meet our agenda.  Dolson said you will not hear from him until the announcement on the new coach is made  So why not let him do his job and see what happens instead of freaking out every minute.  We have no idea if any of this info going out has any truth to it at all so let it play out.

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5 minutes ago, IU-DL said:

My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett. And I'd be perfectly fine with any of them.

Realistic to unrealistic: Musselman, Matta, Moser, Beard, Stevens, Bennett, Oats

Big fat disgusting screaming to the high heavens NO: Any "forced" IU guy. Alford, Woodson, Lewis as HC (assistant yes), Fife (assistant yes), USC coach, Beilein, Oregon coach, and I don't particularly love Drew. It's my moralistic ways that bother me about a few of these guys.

Adjusted for likely reality of who we could actually get:

"My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett."

 

[Trish 11,630]

4 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

That’s related to Franklin

Yes. I should've put that in my post but I figured for those who didn't see. 

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Adjusted for likely reality of who we could actually get:

"My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett."

 

Not really a fan of Moser. He’s just not finally finding success. Just think that’s too much of a risk. If it happens, I will support him but with with my arms folded with a grumpy face :) 

[iu-dl 1,470]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

Adjusted for reality of who we could actually get:

"My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett."

 

Ha. I thought that too, but if we're willing to spend the way it was rumored for Stevens, all of these guys get 2x...3x...up to 8x their current earnings. That's not something you ignore as it's generational money. Musselman, for example, would make $3M more at IU...per year. That's an awful lot of money to just say "no thanks". Same for all of them, really. I get it if a guy like Bennett has beef with IU, but the rest don't. I absolutely love my actual job and make a good wage, but if someone calls me and doubles or triples my income, it's my responsibility to listen.

[TadQueasy 742]

Let's not go overboard on the Moser love.  He has had a nice run this year and their previous final four run.  But let's not forget that they lost in the first round of the MVC as a 1 seed and failed to make the tournament another year with a loaded team and the reigning player of the year in the MVC

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11 minutes ago, IU-DL said:

My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett. And I'd be perfectly fine with any of them.

Realistic to unrealistic: Musselman, Matta, Moser, Beard, Stevens, Bennett, Oats

Big fat disgusting screaming to the high heavens NO: Any "forced" IU guy. Alford, Woodson, Lewis as HC (assistant yes), Fife (assistant yes), USC coach, Beilein, Oregon coach, and I don't particularly love Drew. It's my moralistic ways that bother me about a few of these guys.

1 minute ago, TadQueasy said:

Let's not go overboard on the Moser love.  He has had a nice run this year and their previous final four run.  But let's not forget that they lost in the first round of the MVC as a 1 seed and failed to make the tournament another year with a loaded team and the reigning player of the year in the MVC

2 minutes ago, JaybobHoosier said:

Not really a fan of Moser. He’s just not finally finding success. Just think that’s too much of a risk. If it happens, I will support him but with with my arms folded with a grumpy face :) 

Well then, let's combine your dislikes with the reality of IU-DL's preference list:

Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett.

[HoosierFan1994 4,754]

21 minutes ago, Evariste Galois said:

Then Beard is probably the target. This is a tight-lipped event and the less chatter about something, the more probable it is.

I went back to their 2017 Hot Board. There were 4 guys in the top 5 the entire time : Steve Alford, Tony Bennett, Chris Collins, and Archie Miller. Miller was #5 on their last hot board before the hire. Maybe it's possible that the chatter stopped because there were ongoing talks. I hope that's the case with Beard. He is #2 on their list. 

So far Beard and Beilein have been 1/2 the entire time. Woodson has been in the top 5 most of the time as well as Musselman. 

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53 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Well the NBA has changed to race and space. Teams want to play fast and everyone should be able to shoot the 3 and make it -- at all positions.

My argument -- The last time he was a head coach, the NBA wasn't race and space. They had centers who couldn't shoot, they have teams taking mid-range jumpers, etc.  

Maybe he could adapt, maybe Dane Fife could win a banner here, maybe Brad Stevens is coming tonight. No one knows anything. If Mike Woodson never played at Indiana then he really should not be a candidate. He hasn't done anything to stand out as a head coach for Indiana University. 

Thanks for explaining.  Very much appreciate it. 

In my experience in every team sport, the style of game is always changing.  Wait a few years and the style of basketball played while Woodson was a head coach will be the 'new' style.  Typically what forces these changes is how the defense adjusted to all the 'new' craze or personnel/players playing the game.  I've always thought there are two types of coaches.  The one that is able to adjust and make a career of coaching and one that was once a coach but isn't a coach anymore because he/she was too stubborn to adjust. 

I will say, in my opinion, being able to shoot the 3 ball will never change.  It's pretty simple to figure out 3 > 2.  But that doesn't mean the style of play is always going to be 'race and space', if that makes sense.  

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1 minute ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I went back to their 2017 Hot Board. There were 4 guys in the top 5 the entire time : Steve Alford, Tony Bennett, Chris Collins, and Archie Miller. Miller was #5 on their last hot board before the hire. Maybe it's possible that the chatter stopped because there were ongoing talks. I hope that's the case with Beard. He is #2 on their list. 

Last time my #1 was Greg Marshall but glad that didn't happen

[HoosierFan1994 4,754]

Osterman had a good Tweet about the timeline of the last 3 searches. If IU follows the same timeline, I think the earliest we hear something is Thursday (I don't think tomorrow because the Women play). IF it's Beard, it may be longer. Crean and Miller's season ended about a week before they took the IU job. Sampson was about two weeks. 

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Adjusted for likely reality of who we could actually get:

"My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett."

 

And even Moser has to look at our fanbase and recognize it's a risky move.  Not slamming us...just pointing out the reality of the situation.

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13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Adjusted for likely reality of who we could actually get:

"My preference, in order: Moser, Stevens, Musselman or Beard, Matta, Oats, Bennett."

 

I would rather hire Woodson or one of the IU assistants than hire Moser. Mid-major guys worry the most out of anyone. Moser is only in his second tournament in 17 years as a head coach. I could possibly be talked into one of the IU guys but I would be really disappointed with Moser.