General Coach Candidate News

[Honkyman]

Hoosierfan2017 said: I highly doubt it'll be an issue, both because Archie doesn't seem like the type of guy who just wants to sit around doing nothing and because I don't think he wants to risk violating the contract and losing $10 million. 

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Agree. These clauses almost never become an issue because college coaches are not the kind of people to sit around and do nothing but collect a check. Archie in particular is a young man and will want to go out and try to rehabilitate his reputation as quickly as possible.  Like Tom Crean, he may try his hand as an analyst to give him time to reflect on what went wrong. But he isn't going to deliberately violate the terms of his deal with IU because that would raise questions about his character.

[lillurk]

The Allen # sounds big but per Osterman it’s a raise of less than $1M for next year. So this should in no way impact hoops negatively, and in fact might have a slight benefit of indicating IU is serious and will pay for success.

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, lillurk said:

The Allen # sounds big but per Osterman it’s a raise of less than $1M for next year. So this should in no way impact hoops negatively, and in fact might have a slight benefit of indicating IU is serious and will pay for success.

There’s no way we cheap out on a basketball coach when we’re paying our football coach $5 million a year, imo. Tom Allen has done a helluva job and deserves every penny, but basketball will always be king at IU. Scott Dolson knows that as well as anyone. You aren’t going to be paying the basketball coach $3 million a year when the football coach is getting way more. I expect our new basketball coach to be getting as much advanced Allen at the minimum. This news today tells me that Dolson isn’t screwing around and is more than willing to put up money to get what he wants. 

[IUrocker]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There’s no way we cheap out on a basketball coach when we’re paying our football coach $5 million a year, imo. Tom Allen has done a helluva job and deserves every penny, but basketball will always be king at IU. Scott Dolson knows that as well as anyone. You aren’t going to be paying the basketball coach $3 million a year when the football coach is getting way more. I expect our new basketball coach to be getting as much advanced Allen at the minimum. This news today tells me that Dolson isn’t screwing around and is more than willing to put up money to get what he wants. 

Agreed, and definitely makes the thought of who Dolson will be trying to go after pretty exciting, knowing this is showing signs of him willing to pay the big bucks. Like you said, no way the basketball coach will make less than Allen. Dolson is a basketball guy and he’s going to want to make this hire with his name on it a good one. 

[HoosierFan1994]

I take it as really good news that Indiana gave Tom Allen a well deserved raise. I think that squashes the narrative that IU needs to be cheap on this new hire for basketball. 

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There’s no way we cheap out on a basketball coach when we’re paying our football coach $5 million a year, imo. Tom Allen has done a helluva job and deserves every penny, but basketball will always be king at IU. Scott Dolson knows that as well as anyone. You aren’t going to be paying the basketball coach $3 million a year when the football coach is getting way more. I expect our new basketball coach to be getting as much advanced Allen at the minimum. This news today tells me that Dolson isn’t screwing around and is more than willing to put up money to get what he wants. 

I totally agree with you, but Allen was already the top paid person at IU even before this raise. 

[HoosierFan1994]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I totally agree with you, but Allen was already the top paid person at IU even before this raise. 

The timing of this is interesting too. It's like a message was sent that "we aren't screwing around". 

[Chris007]

Who do you think will be the first reporter to know that we have parted ways with Archie? Will be a local guy? Osterman, Rabby or a national guy like Goodman?

[Hoosierfan2017]

10 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

Agreed, and definitely makes the thought of who Dolson will be trying to go after pretty exciting, knowing this is showing signs of him willing to pay the big bucks. Like you said, no way the basketball coach will make less than Allen. Dolson is a basketball guy and he’s going to want to make this hire with his name on it a good one. 

Makes me a lot more excited about the hunt too. Can’t load up with water guns when you’re going big game hunting. I know IU isn’t the hottest spot in the world right now, but paying  north of $5 million a year can help satisfy a lot of the concerns coaches might have. 

[rcbowla]

Who do you think will be the first reporter to know that we have parted ways with Archie? Will be a local guy? Osterman, Rabby or a national guy like Goodman?

My $ is on Rabby

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Who do you think will be the first reporter to know that we have parted ways with Archie? Will be a local guy? Osterman, Rabby or a national guy like Goodman?

Woj will come in with an RKO outta nowhere. 

[johnsoniu]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Who do you think will be the first reporter to know that we have parted ways with Archie? Will be a local guy? Osterman, Rabby or a national guy like Goodman?

It will be Sam Story. Or, it might not be Sam Story.

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

It will be Sam Story. Or, it might not be Sam Story.

Sam doesn't talk about coaching candidates he told someone 

[hper50]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Who do you think will be the first reporter to know that we have parted ways with Archie? Will be a local guy? Osterman, Rabby or a national guy like Goodman?

I was hoping you or Hoosierpap would be breaking the news! 

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

Or the basketball gods torture us more: IU comes together and wins their first ever B10 Tourney Title, get the auto big and with Fans in the seats for the first time all year
Make an E8 run.

I kid


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[8bucks]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Who do you think will be the first reporter to know that we have parted ways with Archie? Will be a local guy? Osterman, Rabby or a national guy like Goodman?

Well if it is Pat Forde then my money is on Scott Drew getting the job. Pat has written 3-4 articles in SI about Drew over the last few years. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

20 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I totally agree with you, but Allen was already the top paid person at IU even before this raise. 

I might be remembering this incorrectly, but didn’t we bump CTA’s salary above Archie’s after we had already hired Archie? I looked and I think we paid him $1.7 million/year when we first hired him. Archie might’ve gotten bumped up if the results had been better, but alas. I just can’t see us bringing in someone new at a salary lower than Allen’s. 

[Capt. Crimson]

20 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Woj will come in with an RKO outta nowhere. 

Love me a good Woj bomb.

[HoosierFan1994]

Just looked..of the top 25 paid college college basketball coaches only 11 schools pay their basketball coach more than their football coach. Kentucky and Duke are outliers. Average salary wise, others pay their basketball coach either $500,000 to $1.5 million more. I'm guessing Indiana could get someone around $5.5-6.5 million a year. Would be #3 behind Kentucky and Duke. @Chris007 Is this realistic thinking? Not saying this to overpay someone (like UCLA did with Mick Cronin). But if the right guy is there...

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

We're going full football school. Brad must've said no.
I'll see you at the tailgate in August Chris! 
FOOTBALL SCHOOL!

I hope not

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