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[Uspshoosier]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Hummel is the best. He's the truth-iest guy out there. 

This is a great watch. While they conclude Archie may in fact get one more year because of the separation cost, literally EVERY measurable of the program that they discuss they decide is failing. I think that Goodman and Hummel would cross the line into 'he's gone' if we lose out and if TJD leaves.

 

I’ve probably said this before but I think he is the best young color guy espn has going.  I will go out of my way and put his games on the main one to listen to his call each night.    Podcasts are pretty good as well 

[Bowhunter]

I enjoyed it till the last part.


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[coonhounds]

Sounds like you might be that guy stuck in the 80's their talking about :-)

Dang right I am because accepting anything less is trash imo. All programs should strive to be the absolute best and to win as much as possible. Why would or should we lower our standards to just accept we aren't duke or Kentucky so let's just give up. Purdue is becoming a great team should we give up and say well we aren't as good as them so guess we will just try to beat Nebraska? Just tell me why any team or fan would accept that what you did in the past is not going to happen ever again? Also list reasons why iu can't be great again? I am curious

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[kreigh8]

I'll duck for cover after posing the question, but how stuck in the 80's is the notion that IU needs to get old and stay old and we only need to recruit guys from the state, or the tri-state area, because it worked with Bob Knight? This is Big10 basketball in the age of the 1 and done era, if you've got any guys worth a squat, they are likely going to the NBA after a couple seasons and you'll be lucky to keep a guy all 4 years. Just something I always think when I hear those two premises posed here.

[TheWatShot]

1 minute ago, kreigh8 said:

I'll duck for cover after posing the question, but how stuck in the 80's is the notion that IU needs to get old and stay old and we only need to recruit guys from the state, or the tri-state area, because it worked with Bob Knight? This is Big10 basketball in the age of the 1 and done era, if you've got any guys worth a squat, they are likely going to the NBA after a couple seasons and you'll be lucky to keep a guy all 4 years. Just something I always think when I hear those two premises posed here.

Well, I know one thing, I'm f*cking tired of losing to Purdue every year and watching them out-perform us, and this stuff seems to work pretty well for them. 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

I'll duck for cover after posing the question, but how stuck in the 80's is the notion that IU needs to get old and stay old and we only need to recruit guys from the state, or the tri-state area, because it worked with Bob Knight? This is Big10 basketball in the age of the 1 and done era, if you've got any guys worth a squat, they are likely going to the NBA after a couple seasons and you'll be lucky to keep a guy all 4 years. Just something I always think when I hear those two premises posed here.

 

The "stuck in the 80's" line wasn't my favorite, but I think in the context it was used, it was meant to state that some IU fans think that the Big Ten should be 13 teams genuflecting to the mighty IU, scared to play us, and resigned to losing to us. The B1G currently is just too darn good to have any one team as an absolute alpha dog.

The other dynamics you cited from the 80's; "get old and stay old and we only need to recruit guys from the state, or the tri-state area" are not what they were talking about, but frankly, we are doing horribly at that too. I think that Hummel cited the teams that are consistently outperforming us, and that is exactly what they are doing.

 

[kreigh8]

12 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

The "stuck in the 80's" line wasn't my favorite, but I think in the context it was used, it was meant to state that some IU fans think that the Big Ten should be 13 teams genuflecting to the mighty IU, scared to play us, and resigned to losing to us. The B1G currently is just too darn good to have any one team as an absolute alpha dog.

The other dynamics you cited from the 80's; "get old and stay old and we only need to recruit guys from the state, or the tri-state area" are not what they were talking about, but frankly, we are doing horribly at that too. 

 

Apologies, I know it wasn't discussed in the video, just has been discussed plenty of times here. If you're going to recruit guys out of HS that are 4 year guys to a place like IU, your player development better be up to snuff. As WatShot said, Painter's has been, Archie's has left a lot to be desired so far in his 4 years at IU. Just my opinion of course and to the video's point, maybe the free agency from the transfer market can make up that slack, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that coming to fruition.

[LIHoosier]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’ve probably said this before but I think he is the best young color guy espn has going.  I will go out of my way and put his games on the main one to listen to his call each night.    Podcasts are pretty good as well 

I'm surprised Hummel still does game analysis and studio duty at BTN. Usually if you're of any talent, you pass your audition and ESPN/Fox puts you on their main networks full time.

[Alford Bailey]

If Archie has failed in every area and you keep him just because of the money...........the program is a failure. Dont think we keep him based on a buyout.

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

I'm surprised Hummel still does game analysis and studio duty at BTN. Usually if you're of any talent, you pass your audition and ESPN/Fox puts you on their main networks full time.

I’m guessing when his contract is up which allows him to do both that there will be a bidding war for his services 

[southernindianahoosier2]

So Nate Oates is a NO because of his buyout?


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[southernindianahoosier2]

Also I was laughed at for saying Fred Glass should put in a clause in Archie’s contract that stated if he doesn’t make the tournament in his first 4 years his buyout gets greatly reduced


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[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Also I was laughed at for saying Fred Glass should put in a clause in Archie’s contract that stated if he doesn’t make the tournament in his first 4 years his buyout gets greatly reduced


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If I was one that laughed I apologize.

It's not funny at all.

 

[Alford Bailey]

We are junk .Hummel is another in state kid who wanted to come to IU but went to Purdue and beat our butts. I DO NOT dislike those PU players any more. Hummel and Goodman are spot on. Archie has failed and the roster is mostly not good. TJD and the a huge drop off. Recruiting has largely been a failure other than TJD and Romeo.

[Alford Bailey]

I will add one more thing from the Hummel/Goodman interview. Transfers may very well become the new one and done. Would be wise to keep that in mind when hiring a new coach.

[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, kreigh8 said:

I'll duck for cover after posing the question, but how stuck in the 80's is the notion that IU needs to get old and stay old and we only need to recruit guys from the state, or the tri-state area, because it worked with Bob Knight? This is Big10 basketball in the age of the 1 and done era, if you've got any guys worth a squat, they are likely going to the NBA after a couple seasons and you'll be lucky to keep a guy all 4 years. Just something I always think when I hear those two premises posed here.

I think we should recruit the state well but I no longer buy get old stay old. Too much player movement between going to the league and transfers.

[Bowhunter]

The only reason those kids in Hummel’s class went to Purdue was because we recently had a coaching change and Porky had been on them longer


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[HoosierTrav]

7 hours ago, Treesh said:

Assuming the dream candidates and coaches at high rankings programs currently are not in the running..

I think we settle on Dane Fife as a collective. Indiana guy, recruiting history, brings the Indiana fans together. 

Dane fife would be a worse hire than Archie. I can’t believe people actually think he’d win here. No history of consistently winning as a head of any program. The best I’ve heard anyone say is that he took IPFW from “god awful” to “meh” and that “he learned from a legend.”  
 

And we scrutinize Drew’s resume? Fife doesn’t unite the fanbase. Not even close. Let him go WIN SOMEWHERE FIRST! 

[lillurk]

Not a head coaching candidate, but you know who should get a look as an assistant (GA first?) as soon as he retires from playing? Yogi Ferrell.

He’d be a great recruiter because both parents and players will like him. NBA experience. Megawatt smile. Young enough players will remember him. Knows the game. Got better every year, made his teammates better. Two conference title rings. Played hard whether he was the freshman earning his keep or the senior leader. Vocal. Seems to connect well with everyone.

[Rookie33]

 
Hummel is the best. He's the truth-iest guy out there. 
This is a great watch. While they conclude Archie may in fact get one more year because of the separation cost, literally EVERY measurable of the program that they discuss they decide is failing. I think that Goodman and Hummel would cross the line into 'he's gone' if we lose out and if TJD leaves.
 

Pandemic and buyout were their only reasons for leaning in favor of a 5th year. And like 99.9% of peeps, they don’t understand how the buyout actually works (spread out over 3 years + set off with CAM being obligated to seek other employment).


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