General Coach Candidate News

[Hoosier DaDa]

3 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Why?

From McDermott's perspective---How many people nearing the age of retirement take at best a lateral job move? And yes, Creighton is a better basketball program than IU right now. McDermott failed at his first P5 gig and then reinvented himself at Creighton, turning them into a consistent top 25 program. He has it made in Omaha doing things his way in a complete stress-free environment. Why leave a program that is currently rolling to take a job that turns and burns coaches like a temp agency? Retire a legend at Creighton or potentially be run out of town in Bloomington is something to seriously ponder.

From IU's perspective---You're about to hire your 6th coach in 25 years. Your fan base is nuts and starving for success. You have zero culture or foundation of which to work with. Do I really want to hire a guy who will be 61 when next season starts? Do I risk a guy nearing the age of retirement getting burned out in a fishbowl job if things go south?

He'd be a solid hire as he'd raise the floor and have IU making the tournament consistently. But I don't think McDermott is going to deliver you a national title in a 5-6 year span. McDermott is a bridge hire, someone that should have been hired to replace Crean. I think there's a good chance we're doing this all over again in 5-6 years if you hire McDermott. 

 

3 hours ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm sorry.. did you just call Creighton to Indiana a lateral move? lol 

I'm not reading past that. Have a nice day, or don't. 

So I'm currently 3 hours and 22 pages behind.  I haven't looked forward.  I'm willing to make a bet that in the next 10 pages there will be at least 12 post from AH1971 how he is right and it's a lateral move. What is the over/under? 

[PartyintheVillas]

Just now, Silat Player said:

KathyC is obviously a huge troll, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if she/he works in academia on some level. This isn't to offend anyone on BTB who does work at a university, but it is a strange place to work if you've ever worked at a private for-profit kind of company. 

Her responses kind of show some of the issues that might indicate some of the reasons why IU has sucked over the past 25 years. How she focuses on minor, unrelated things (like grammar, etc...) or emphases "process" to a comical degree - that's true. I've seen it with my own eyes. 

I worked as a consultant for a couple of major universities and actually sat on a BoT for 2 smaller colleges at one time. I would almost laugh out loud at some of the issues that were brought up. It's that kind of stuff that totally goes on in college administrations that weighs down even easy decisions.

Don't get me wrong. Massive bureaucracy and groupthink and minor issues can sometimes be a huge problem at for-profit companies too (IBM in the 60s is a famous example that is taught in some biz schools), but it seems to be a regular part of life in unis today. 

I wonder what kinds of crazy conversations went on behind the scenes at IU led to the hiring of Woodson? And what kinds of stupid conversations are going on right now? 

Just a thought. There ARE lots of ACTUAL KathyCs in the admin of IU right now. Remember that. 

She told me the fanbase was the problem. Since she uses "Spellcheck" (and maybe Grammarly) she must be the most intelligent among us.

[Home Jersey]

Just now, Teter02 said:

Eric (Hoosier Hysterics) is friends with him. All intel pointed to Cronin being interested in IU.

I specifically recall Eric saying he would be shocked if Cronin had any interest in IU. Maybe I’m mistaken but pretty sure not. 

[TadQueasy]

So I have a question.  How much are people on the BoT updated on these searches?  Are they really in the loop or do they just get vague information along the way until things are close to being final?  

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

About posts on an IU basketball forum? That’s up to you. I certainly don’t understand why anyone would be surprised or upset that we have yet to name a new coach.

It was sarcasm.  You should try sarcasmchecker or sarasmly.

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Teter02 said:

Eric (Hoosier Hysterics) is friends with him. All intel pointed to Cronin being interested in IU.

Respectfully, I don't agree. I certainly don't think "Eric" being friends with him is any sort of indication Cronin was ever on the list. 

[Jam]

I believe he said he would be surprised if he ended up as the IU coach. I don’t recall the discussion being about his interest.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, TadQueasy said:

So I have a question.  How much are people on the BoT updated on these searches?  Are they really in the loop or do they just get vague information along the way until things are close to being final?  

For the last couple Quinn was involved. This one I'm guessing they are just getting an update when it is close to be finished

[HinnyHoosier]

23 minutes ago, Steeler said:

If we hire Brownell, I might jump off a cliff. I'd rather keep Woody 10 out of 10 times. 

 

I think this is what they call a knee-jerk reaction.

[Bankshot]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Just watch games and enjoy some basketball, beers maybe some BBQ. :-) 

Yeah, was just trying to counter the Kathy distraction. : )

 

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

So I have a question.  How much are people on the BoT updated on these searches?  Are they really in the loop or do they just get vague information along the way until things are close to being final?  

Not much until we get to the signing stage.  They leak everything.

[Rusty Shackleford]

3 minutes ago, Teter02 said:

Eric (Hoosier Hysterics) is friends with him. All intel pointed to Cronin being interested in IU.

I'm friends with Cronin, too. He told me the opposite.

Not to take the piss, but I don't place much stock in anything that comes out of that guy's mouth.

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

So I have a question.  How much are people on the BoT updated on these searches?  Are they really in the loop or do they just get vague information along the way until things are close to being final?  

it's a process, you know 

[jimsorgi]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Just watch games and enjoy some basketball, beers maybe some BBQ. :-) 

BBQ = Brad/Brad Question? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HINTING AT??

[bigrod]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

It was sarcasm.  You should try sarcasmchecker or sarasmly.

My favorite post of the day!  So far...

But I believe those are proper nouns ;)

[TadQueasy]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

For the last couple Quinn was involved. This one I'm guessing they are just getting an update when it is close to be finished

That's kind of what I was thinking.  So even if we did have a member here who was on the board or had close connections to the board they really do not have as much information as one might think.  And especially with how locked down Dolson seems to be with this thing.  I cannot see him giving any real information to the board until things are about to be finalized 

[Hoosier DaDa]

3 hours ago, TadQueasy said:

Lets hope soon we can throw on some Ice Cube that today was a good day! 

 

[HoosierSadaseci]

18 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I responded to a post wondering if today was a good day to monitor FlightAware (I said it was not). Anything else I’ve stated has been factual, as well. Lastly, anyone who gets pissed off on a Friday because of what someone posts on an IU basketball forum needs to examine their priorities. 

Maybe you should examine your priorities...

[JPCIVOP]

6 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

BBQ = Brad/Brad Question? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HINTING AT??

It's Brad (Stevens) the Board (Of Trustees) with Quinn at the head! 

[IU Prof]

1 hour ago, KathywithaC said:

Not what I said, implied or suggested. We aren’t talking directly with active coaches yet. To their representatives either directly or through an intermediary? Yes. There’s a distinction in there. No need for me to try and explain it further.

I'm going to give Kathy the benefit of the doubt here. We all know she's big on process. And she's said several times she is choosing her words carefully.

So the fact that she has, at least twice, said that we aren't talking with "active coaches" yet must mean something. There is no reason to use "active" otherwise.

So I think one can conclude that, if you believe Kathy, that means we have been talking to non-active coaches directly.

That could mean Brad or Wright. Sadly, though, that could also mean Turgeon...