CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, str8baller said: There’s no doubt that TJD’s refusal to shoot limited his ability a bit. But there’s not a lot a distance between refusal to shoot and can’t shoot. Ware made 15 3’s last year 27% shooting. Unless that really improves teams will drop to protect the rim the same way they did with TJD. I *hope* Reneau improves as much as everyone else, but we all know how that goes. He seemed to want to play outside a little more but he was by far the most effective when he was catching it in the post and bullying his way to the basket. Just something to keep an eye on. If they both don’t start together, as you suggest, then things get interesting. If we snag another post in the portal I’d say that is increasingly unlikely. He's 5 made 3 last year from shooting 33%. They aren't playing drop coverage on him. I don't think both will start either. Quote
Chris007 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, jbeaman9 said: Is that a Rabby 7.5 (which is more like a 9.5) lol only kidding Just a regular 7.5. HAHA Tasmanian Devil, ALASKA HOOSIER, kottke and 1 other 1 3 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, str8baller said: A lot easier to do when one of your bigs is Al Horford or Amare Stoudamire—probably two of the best jump shooting bigs of the last 20 years. With that said, Ware *does* fit the description of the other post Woodson has had (at least as people have described Ware here…I don’t think I watched Oregon all season). We need some personnel improvement to get there. I am high on Reneau though and have been all season. Al Horford was 0-4 from 3 his 3 years in college. J34 1 Quote
str8baller Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: Al Horford was 0-4 from 3 his 3 years in college. They were talking about the pro’s. At least I’m assuming since they mentioned Woody’s prior coaching career. Horford played for Donovan in college. And while he isn’t a prolific 3 point shooter, he is the consummate pick and pop post player who loves a 15ft jumper. As he’s gotten older he’s drifted out to the arc more but he’s always been a good face-up jump shooter. Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, str8baller said: They were talking about the pro’s. At least I’m assuming since they mentioned Woody’s prior coaching career. Horford played for Donovan in college. And while he isn’t a prolific 3 point shooter, he is the consummate pick and pop post player who loves a 15ft jumper. As he’s gotten older he’s drifted out to the arc more but he’s always been a good face-up jump shooter. Kel'el is further along as a shooter than Al Horford was as an 18yr old. Ware will be able to pick and pop, and then obviously catch lobs at the rim. Quote
BGleas Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, str8baller said: There’s no doubt that TJD’s refusal to shoot limited his ability a bit. But there’s not a lot a distance between refusal to shoot and can’t shoot. Ware made 15 3’s last year 27% shooting. Unless that really improves teams will drop to protect the rim the same way they did with TJD. I *hope* Reneau improves as much as everyone else, but we all know how that goes. He seemed to want to play outside a little more but he was by far the most effective when he was catching it in the post and bullying his way to the basket. Just something to keep an eye on. If they both don’t start together, as you suggest, then things get interesting. If we snag another post in the portal I’d say that is increasingly unlikely. The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the idea that both Reneau and Ware might not start together. A lot of that depends on who else we get in the portal of course. Say we get Ledlum and Knecht, I'd say there's a decent chance both Reneau and Ware don't start. Both guys only averaged 15mpg last season. I don't see a guy like Galloway in that scenario going from 28mpg to 6th man, especially when also given Woodson's expressed desire to play a more perimeter oriented style. You'd go XJ, Galloway, Knecht, Ledlum, Ware/Reneau. Then you have a bench of Ware/Reneau, Banks, Cupps, Newton/Gunn and Sparks. FightFor6, CSP, GoIU8 and 2 others 5 Quote
Popular Post Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, Chris007 said: 7.5-8 That rounds up to 10!! mamasa, thebigweave, Chris007 and 6 others 2 7 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the idea that both Reneau and Ware might not start together. A lot of that depends on who else we get in the portal of course. Say we get Ledlum and Knecht, I'd say there's a decent chance both Reneau and Ware don't start. Both guys only averaged 15mpg last season. I don't see a guy like Galloway in that scenario going from 28mpg to 6th man, especially when also given Woodson's expressed desire to play a more perimeter oriented style. You'd go XJ, Galloway, Knecht, Ledlum, Ware/Reneau. Then you have a bench of Ware/Reneau, Banks, Cupps, Newton/Gunn and Sparks. man.. I like that. I'll take Cormac Ryan, probably a pipe dream, for the last spot, please. NVFalcons1990 and BGleas 2 Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, BGleas said: The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the idea that both Reneau and Ware might not start together. A lot of that depends on who else we get in the portal of course. Say we get Ledlum and Knecht, I'd say there's a decent chance both Reneau and Ware don't start. Both guys only averaged 15mpg last season. I don't see a guy like Galloway in that scenario going from 28mpg to 6th man, especially when also given Woodson's expressed desire to play a more perimeter oriented style. You'd go XJ, Galloway, Knecht, Ledlum, Ware/Reneau. Then you have a bench of Ware/Reneau, Banks, Cupps, Newton/Gunn and Sparks. I think we should all start to get behind the fact that Ware and Malik are starting together. Throw X in there and you have 3 of the 5 starters going into next season. Depending on other portal additions, you could say X, Knecht, Ledlum, Malik, Ware or if we do not land Knecht just swap Trey for him and their is your projected lineup. Ngw7183, jonz44 and J34 2 1 Quote
rcbowla Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 man.. I like that. I'll take Cormac Ryan, probably a pipe dream, for the last spot, please. I really like Cormac a lot. Everytime I watched ND he was giving everything he had and then some.Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk CSP 1 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, jbeaman9 said: I think we should all start to get behind the fact that Ware and Malik are starting together. Throw X in there and you have 3 of the 5 starters going into next season. Depending on other portal additions, you could say X, Knecht, Ledlum, Malik, Ware or if we do not land Knecht just swap Trey for him and their is your projected lineup. Not a fan of the bolded lineup, at all, truthfully.... I would much prefer TG starting over Malk/Ware. BGleas 1 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, rcs29 said: I really like Cormac a lot. Everytime I watched ND he was giving everything he had and then some. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk He can handle it some, too. 6'5. Not sure we are going to get many better 4th options on the perimeter. Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 I just do think you can land a player like Knecht/Ware on selling them a bench spot. Unless that isn't a part of the conversation and the staff only says they will get the PT they earn. Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, jbeaman9 said: I just do think you can land a player like Knecht/Ware on selling them a bench spot. Unless that isn't a part of the conversation and the staff only says they will get the PT they earn. Oh Knecht is undoubtedly starting. NVFalcons1990 1 Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Oh Knecht is undoubtedly starting. Gotcha. I still don't think they land someone like Ware and expect him to come off the bench. My gut says that Malik improves his skillset, and outside shot, enough to play the 4 better than Race ever did. Then you play 5 guys with the capability and willingness to take and hit outside shots. jonz44, J34, ALASKA HOOSIER and 3 others 6 Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: Not a fan of the bolded lineup, at all, truthfully.... I would much prefer TG starting over Malk/Ware. The staff is selling Ware as a starter with Malik along with Ledlum. Now if that all happens is another thing but that is what is being sold to the players. Ngw7183, Stuhoo, WayneFleekHoosier and 9 others 9 3 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Chris007 said: The staff is selling Ware as a starter with Malik along with Ledlum. Now if that all happens is another thing but that is what is being sold to the players. Hope not. NVFalcons1990, Ngw7183, BGleas and 2 others 1 4 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 I don't know why people are do enamored with Galloway being in the starting lineup. To me if we see him starting next year that is not a great sign for us to be a great team. On a great team he should be coming off the bench as your 7-8 guy. We just have to upgrade positions 2-4 because last year that was this teams down fall. If we don't upgrade those position from last year then we won't be as good as last year. NVFalcons1990, bird4par, HoosierFan1994 and 3 others 4 2 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Scotty R said: I don't know why people are do enamored with Galloway being in the starting lineup. To me if we see him starting next year that is not a great sign for us to be a great team. On a great team he should be coming off the bench as your 7-8 guy. We just have to upgrade positions 2-4 because last year that was this teams down fall. If we don't upgrade those position from last year then we won't be as good as last year. IU Scott, because he is good. That's why. He should not be coming off the bench for a team that needs quickness, perimeter D, and someone to create for others. Him improving in the off season is the upgrade. BGleas, go iu bb and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 Malik Reneau is a 5 on offense and a 4 on defense. Kel'el Ware is a 4 on offense and a 5 on defense. Chris Ledlum is a 3 in P5 basketball. He can play with the ball in his hands, move laterally, and get to the rim better than our 3 the last two years, MK, will have been able to. He needs to be somewhat more of a threat from three point range; that will be the challenge for him this summer. thebigweave, ElectricBoogaloo, hper50 and 14 others 14 3 Quote
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