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20 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Are you going to keep beating this dead horse on this or what? It was a thing and still is. 
 

college coaches in every sport would laugh at your statement. Is is 100%… no. But he was heavy IU and that was one of many indicators. They lost him at the end and I am not sure they even know why. That would concern me more.

You want to argue this more or just drop it? I can call you out for every post you make to if you want? 

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But they were in a much better place than what Archie left for Woody. We only had like TJD, Race, and a few others.
Am I in an alternate message board universe where people don't get you or have they never got you and I just assumed everyone else could gauge sarcasm?

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Where is the cliff? We lost Ludlum. That is one. We never really pursued Love after the initial call. Not everyone we contacted was offered. I'm not saying it's all roses, but man some of you guys need to relax. Yes we need some good transfers or late deciding HS players but I'm not going to worry about it, 2 and a half weeks into portaling. If it continues well into May, I'll be Wiley E Coyote right along with you.

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Where is the cliff? We lost Ludlum. That is one. We never really pursued Love after the initial call. Not everyone we contacted was offered. I'm not saying it's all roses, but man some of you guys need to relax. Yes we need some good transfers or late deciding HS players but I'm not going to worry about it, 2 and a half weeks into portaling. If it continues well into May, I'll be Wiley E Coyote right along with you.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=wiley+coyote+falling+off+cliff&view=detail&mid=2FDFA9F930BFD2030DE92FDFA9F930BFD2030DE9&FORM=VIRE&PC=SANSAAND&ssp=1&darkschemeovr=1&safesearch=off&setlang=en&cc=US

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The Love statement isn’t true. We tried, he didn’t reciprocate. Same for Knecht right now. I get it, you can’t get everyone you want.

Ware makes perfect sense. So does Sparks. Both still have big question marks though.

It’s not who we’ve missed that bothers me, it’s the lack of cache we have in recruiting and how tough it is for our staff to identify targets with mutual interest and finish.

Bright side- we only really need to fill 2 more spots. Somewhere, somehow we can still get good players. And I personally didn’t even care for Ledlum but Eric from HHs who is a legitimate inside source, really painted a picture tonight.


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Let me first say that overall I think our fan base is a big asset to the program. Saying that I also think we can be a huge detriment to it as well. We keep trying to come up with all of these excuses to why we haven't been successful the last 25 years. I think one reason is the fans and how we try to get in the way when it comes to recruiting. Someone brought up Hoosier Hysterics but I think their actions get in the way of recruiting because some players might not like getting hit up on social media by creepy older guys.

In the last 25 years we have had 6 coaches, 4 AD's and 4 presidents but the one constant is the fan base. I think the actions of some of our fan base has hurt the program when it comes to recruiting. Just this year we had an idiot fan write TJD a letter criticizing him. You see one of the all time players in zIU history getting ripped it might make you second guess about coming to IU

 

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1 hour ago, Ngw7183 said:

Still valid wether you want it to be or not. Just because you think it isn’t and think this proves you right doesn’t. 

glad you got a win you can gloat over. 

can we move on now? FYI…. I would 100% still give the exact same insight. 

Since when has it been valid. This was its grand chance to prove itself and it failed miserably. You talked down to everybody that didn’t believe your little theory. Now that you missed badly you aren’t even owning it. Just.”let’s move past this”. 
 

Not sure why you are convinced this is so great a theory. Maybe you own stock on Meta idk 

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10 hours ago, Scotty R said:

On July 2nd of last year Kansas St. had two players on their roster and ended up in the elite 8

Yeah, you're right. I'm sure that is the norm and not an extreme outlier. We're going to the final four!!!

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2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


The Love statement isn’t true. We tried, he didn’t reciprocate. Same for Knecht right now. I get it, you can’t get everyone you want.

Ware makes perfect sense. So does Sparks. Both still have big question marks though.

It’s not who we’ve missed that bothers me, it’s the lack of cache we have in recruiting and how tough it is for our staff to identify targets with mutual interest and finish.

Bright side- we only really need to fill 2 more spots. Somewhere, somehow we can still get good players. And I personally didn’t even care for Ledlum but Eric from HHs who is a legitimate inside source, really painted a picture tonight.


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What did he say? I assume it was on a Twitter spaces. I saw they had one but couldn’t listen. 

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1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

Let me first say that overall I think our fan base is a big asset to the program. Saying that I also think we can be a huge detriment to it as well. We keep trying to come up with all of these excuses to why we haven't been successful the last 25 years. I think one reason is the fans and how we try to get in the way when it comes to recruiting. Someone brought up Hoosier Hysterics but I think their actions get in the way of recruiting because some players might not like getting hit up on social media by creepy older guys.

In the last 25 years we have had 6 coaches, 4 AD's and 4 presidents but the one constant is the fan base. I think the actions of some of our fan base has hurt the program when it comes to recruiting. Just this year we had an idiot fan write TJD a letter criticizing him. You see one of the all time players in zIU history getting ripped it might make you second guess about coming to IU

 

Damn.  And I thought it was the cheerleading uniforms.  

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7 hours ago, iubb said:


or IU needs to pull a UCLA and switch conferences.

Because the BIG 10 doesnt give a rats behind. And wont change until they are forced


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I can see the logic to it.  Be like Gonzaga in BB and not be a perennial also-ran or cellar-dweller in football.  But the $$$ wouldn't be there from a BTN contract, so that would never happen.

It seems like there's two paths for success: Unilaterally play the type of game today's players want to play and take the lumps (losses) from B10 TackleBall® OR build your roster around, and play that ugly style of basketball.

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1 minute ago, pumpfake said:

I can see the logic to it.  Be like Gonzaga in BB and not be a perennial also-ran or cellar-dweller in football.  But the $$$ wouldn't be there from a BTN contract, so that would never happen.

It seems like there's two paths for success: Unilaterally play the type of game today's players want to play and take the lumps (losses) from B10 TackleBall® OR build your roster around, and play that ugly style of basketball.

It’s a conference problem regardless of what style we play recruits are turned off by the style of other teams as well. 

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8 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

Ok man

yes you can. The program was in bad, bad shape.

the SEC is also easier to finish well, get a solid seed and make a run. 

more time is needed. Period.

even with that, hearing other places like UNC, Miami etc struggling too and missing a lot. Seems like this portal thing is little different. Not sure how but odd. 

I mean, the SEC is a better basketball conference than the Big 10. IU was a 4 seed in the tournament this year. Arkansas was a 3 seed in Musselman’s second season when they made the elite eight. IU easily would’ve been a 3 seed if we won a few of the east games we blew. 

But, I recognize that blaming the prior coach for the current coach’s shortcomings is a popular thing to do for IU fans. The same thing happened with Archie. It was all Crean’s fault for leaving him such a bad roster. At what point will IU’s current coach’s shortcomings become his own fault and not his predecessor’s?

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