Hardwood83 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Is the Reeves kid from Florida a defensive savant? His offensive numbers are extremely mediocre at best. One of these is Reeves, one is Tamar Bates. Draw your own conclusions. go iu bb 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said: Puff, puff PASS on Puff Johnson. Where does he make any difference on our team? Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Geez…disagree on that one Doc! Hes the lanky, fast stretch four we’ve all been wanting. Him, Ike, Timberlake so far for me. lillurk and NVFalcons1990 2 Quote
IU - Kaulie Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Unlike Smart, X will be good enough to start the second half of his senior year. And I’m guessing that if X starts at point, he’ll shoot better than 32% from 3 and do better than 3.1 assists, 2.3 turnovers per game. A freshman Lyndon Jones put Smart on the bench, and Lyndon was just okay at IU. It was way before my time. I have just seen highlights but I didn’t think Smart was a ‘true’ point guard? cthomas 1 Quote
str8baller Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Unlike Smart, X will be good enough to start the second half of his senior year. And I’m guessing that if X starts at point, he’ll shoot better than 32% from 3 and do better than 3.1 assists, 2.3 turnovers per game. A freshman Lyndon Jones put Smart on the bench, and Lyndon was just okay at IU. Smart was MOP in the Finals and on the all Tournament team. Knight certainly wasn’t above using the bench as a motivator and, of course, Smart almost certainly played on a better team than what XJ will next year. Somewhat of an interesting comparison, but I certainly don’t think you could say XJ is hands down a better player than Smart. There’s a real good chance that a player like XJ couldn’t get off the bench for a Knight coached team. As far as Reneau goes, I think he has a little work to do to be as good as Dean Garrett next year. We need some talent. Stuhoo 1 Quote
IU - Kaulie Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Geez…disagree on that one Doc! Hes the lanky, fast stretch four we’ve all been wanting. Him, Ike, Timberlake so far for me. This board is all over the place on transfer targets. I’m big on Girard and a couple athletic wings that can defend. Don’t know anything about Reeves so don’t know if he is one of those are not. No on Ike. Stuhoo 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said: Is the Reeves kid from Florida a defensive savant? His offensive numbers are extremely mediocre at best. One of these is Reeves, one is Tamar Bates. Draw your own conclusions. I have my doubts about Reeves but those on the board that like him state he's an outstanding athlete and in terms of comparing him to Bates, I don't think Bates could be put in the same sentence with him defensively. I've seen ratings of him all over the map. 247 had him listed as the 9th best transfer portal recruit available because of his ceiling, On3 didn't put him in their top 50. lillurk 1 Quote
Scotty R Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Unlike Smart, X will be good enough to start the second half of his senior year. And I’m guessing that if X starts at point, he’ll shoot better than 32% from 3 and do better than 3.1 assists, 2.3 turnovers per game. A freshman Lyndon Jones put Smart on the bench, and Lyndon was just okay at IU. Smart played in all 29 games which only two players did that year. Smart started 21 games and was the third leading scorer at 13.4. shot 52%from 2 and was 9-28 from 3. Also he was benched for a few games then regained his starters role. Calloway was the one that got benched late and didn't even play in some games. I watched both play and Smart is the better player. jonz44 1 Quote
Scotty R Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said: This board is all over the place on transfer targets. I’m big on Girard and a couple athletic wings that can defend. Don’t know anything about Reeves so don’t know if he is one of those are not. No on Ike. I don't think I would want Girard because of his defense and shot selection Quote
IU - Kaulie Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, Scotty R said: I don't think I would want Girard because of his defense and shot selection The defense might be a question which is why I would put him next to X in the backcourt and get a couple wings that are dawgs. He can really fill it up. Quote
Stuhoo Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said: This board is all over the place on transfer targets. I’m big on Girard and a couple athletic wings that can defend. Don’t know anything about Reeves so don’t know if he is one of those are not. No on Ike. Not a big fan of Girard, but I guess in a certain role he could be fantastic. It seems like the one player that no one has anything bad to say about is Timberlake. NVFalcons1990, lillurk, ebridges24 and 1 other 4 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Geez…disagree on that one Doc! Hes the lanky, fast stretch four we’ve all been wanting. Him, Ike, Timberlake so far for me.A stretch 4 that doesn’t shoot the 3 worth a hoot? And if we want to call it sample size, let’s look at free throw shooting, that’s a good example of a shooters potential. Oh wait. I’m with you on Ike and Timberlake. Of Battle, Ledlum, Johnson, I think Johnson is third to me on that list. All have weaknesses. I’ll dig deeper on Puffy and see what might be behind the curtain besides “potential”. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app RaceToTheTop and Stuhoo 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said: A stretch 4 that doesn’t shoot the 3 worth a hoot? And if we want to call it sample size, let’s look at free throw shooting, that’s a good example of a shooters potential. Oh wait. I’m with you on Ike and Timberlake. Of Battle, Ledlum, Johnson, I think Johnson is third to me on that list. All have weaknesses. I’ll dig deeper on Puffy and see what might be behind the curtain besides “potential”. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app The one and only thing Puff and Reeves have so far is potential. Staff evaluations are a very big deal. lillurk and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
Hardwood83 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: The one and only thing Puff and Reeves have so far is potential. Staff evaluations are a very big deal. And role. If Reeves is projected as the 7th man- an off the bench energy guy and defensive stopper- I'd feel a whole lot better about that, than if he's supposed to be replacing Miller Kopp's starter minutes. Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 56 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said: Is the Reeves kid from Florida a defensive savant? His offensive numbers are extremely mediocre at best. One of these is Reeves, one is Tamar Bates. Draw your own conclusions. I posted his defensive rating on this board, he wouldn't have been one of our better defenders. I don't want Reeves, not even a little bit. I think someone should get a "random" drug test for apparently making an effort to get him. Athleticism and potential doesn't mean they are or will be good. We need more athleticism but those athletes need to be actually be able to play; they can't open the floor if they can't throw it in the ocean. Hardwood83 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: A stretch 4 that doesn’t shoot the 3 worth a hoot? And if we want to call it sample size, let’s look at free throw shooting, that’s a good example of a shooters potential. Oh wait. I’m with you on Ike and Timberlake. Of Battle, Ledlum, Johnson, I think Johnson is third to me on that list. All have weaknesses. I’ll dig deeper on Puffy and see what might be behind the curtain besides “potential”. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app FWIW, Timberlake and Ledlum are the ones that we know IU has had at-home visits with. I thought I read we did so as well with Reeves but could be wrong. The others we have heard we had contact with but nothing beyond that. Think a lot of what becomes available is just what recruits share. We don't know the degree of contact otherwise. lillurk 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, JSHoosier said: I posted his defensive rating on this board, he wouldn't have been one of our better defenders. I don't want Reeves, not even a little bit. I think someone should get a "random" drug test for apparently making an effort to get him. Athleticism and potential doesn't mean they are or will be good. We need more athleticism but those athletes need to be actually be able to play; they can't open the floor if they can't throw it in the ocean. Reeves isn't high on my list either, but I would say that defensive ratings aren't a real exact science at the college level. The only defensive stats available are steals, blocks, and maybe defensive rebounds. The numbers used to generate those defensive ratings would say that Jordan Geronimo was our second best defender among those players who played 50 minutes+. lillurk, str8baller and dar007 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 IMO Girard won't move west of the Appalachians. He's an east coast kid through and through. lillurk, Muskie for three and NVFalcons1990 3 Quote
IU - Kaulie Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: IMO Girard won't move west of the Appalachians. He's an east coast kid through and through. Dang it lol. Quote
GloryDays Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 3 hours ago, str8baller said: Smart was MOP in the Finals and on the all Tournament team. Knight certainly wasn’t above using the bench as a motivator and, of course, Smart almost certainly played on a better team than what XJ will next year. Somewhat of an interesting comparison, but I certainly don’t think you could say XJ is hands down a better player than Smart. There’s a real good chance that a player like XJ couldn’t get off the bench for a Knight coached team. As far as Reneau goes, I think he has a little work to do to be as good as Dean Garrett next year. We need some talent. More than a little,and will never be the defensive presence Dean was. Still going to be pretty good. str8baller 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Brandon Murray, Georgetown. 6’5” guard, 13.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.2 apg. Shot 40/32/64. Quote
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