NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Carmel, IN HS graduate.

Belmont forward Sam Orme, a 2nd Team All MVC Selection, intends to enter the transfer portal, a source tells @247Sports. Averaged 12.7 PPG, 5.0 RPG and 1.8 APG this season, shooting 39.7% from three. Repped by CAA Sports.

I'm a fan of this if the stars align. And no, every tall skinny shooter is NOT Reed Bailey. Though some might be.

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I'm a fan of this if the stars align. And no, every tall skinny shooter is NOT Reed Bailey. Though some might be.

Orme is a much better shooter than Bailey. If the plan is to actually have Orme play his natural position in a depth or rotational role, then no qualms with this. But have to wonder if Orme is at the expense of Sisley?

[Stuhoo]

35 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Orme is a much better shooter than Bailey. If the plan is to actually have Orme play his natural position in a depth or rotational role, then no qualms with this. But have to wonder if Orme is at the expense of Sisley?

I assume that Sisley is bouncier. I also assume that we can have two 6'7-8" shooters on the court at once.

[RaceToTheTop]

In terms of how many players have entered the portal versus how many will but haven't declared yet -- last year there wear 34 players rated by 247 as a 94 or better;  this year, so far there are 6 rated 94 or better.  Stands to reason that 80 to 85% of the players that are going to enter have not entered yet.

[AH1971]

15 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I assume that Sisley is bouncier. I also assume that we can have two 6'7-8" shooters on the court at once.

Sisley definitely more athletic but neither can dribble and both pretty much relegated to the 4 spot. They seem redundant on the floor together but who knows. 

[Golfman25]

9 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

In terms of how many players have entered the portal versus how many will but haven't declared yet -- last year there wear 34 players rated by 247 as a 94 or better;  this year, so far there are 6 rated 94 or better.  Stands to reason that 80 to 85% of the players that are going to enter have not entered yet.

I suppose but only 16 teams are left playing (ok maybe a few others in the NIT/Crown are left).  Might be some slim pickins in the portal this year.  Hopefully things pick up.  

[BA47591]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

I suppose but only 16 teams are left playing (ok maybe a few others in the NIT/Crown are left).  Might be some slim pickins in the portal this year.  Hopefully things pick up.  

This is where we unofficially land players that will enter with a no contact tag.

How much would Henri Vaseer cost I wonder? 

[RaceToTheTop]

19 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I suppose but only 16 teams are left playing (ok maybe a few others in the NIT/Crown are left).  Might be some slim pickins in the portal this year.  Hopefully things pick up.  

The number of players in the portal has increased every year since NIL.  I don't see any reason that is going to change.

[Asha’man]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Orme is a much better shooter than Bailey. If the plan is to actually have Orme play his natural position in a depth or rotational role, then no qualms with this. But have to wonder if Orme is at the expense of Sisley?

Peegs just put a story up confirming Sisley is staying. 

[Stuhoo]

Just now, Asha’man said:

Peegs just put a story up confirming Sisley is staying. 

That is fantastic news. Trent Sisley is pretty much a canary in the coalmine as to whether team culture and staff development was up to par or dysfunctional last season.

My other hopeful tell? On senior night, every departing player, even Conerway, gave a hug to and posed for family pictures with Devries. Never saw that with Archie - methinks most players kinda hated lil' Arch.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

My other hopeful tell? On senior night, every departing player, even Conerway, gave a hug to and posed for family pictures with Devries. Never saw that with Archie - methinks most players kinda hated lil' Arch.

What is worse is a coach who left the court and not even stayed for the pictures....like Woodson.

[go iu bb]

20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

That is fantastic news. Trent Sisley is pretty much a canary in the coalmine as to whether team culture and staff development was up to par or dysfunctional last season.

My other hopeful tell? On senior night, every departing player, even Conerway, gave a hug to and posed for family pictures with Devries. Never saw that with Archie - methinks most players kinda hated lil' Arch.

I remember in their speeches some players not even mentioning or thanking Miller. That's even more telling than public picture taking.

[BGleas]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

My other hopeful tell? On senior night, every departing player, even Conerway, gave a hug to and posed for family pictures with Devries. Never saw that with Archie - methinks most players kinda hated lil' Arch.

The weirdest thing to me was Juwan Morgan's senior night speech. I remember him not even mentioning Archie Miller. Pretty sure he thanked Crean and the previous staff for recruiting him, but he didn't mention Miller by name. 

He was at IU for 4 years, but he definitely thrived under Miller. Miller was the one who essentially made him the focal point. Probably wasn't the best decision, but you'd think Morgan would be thankful for being showcased by Miller like that. 

Always thought that said a lot. 

[RaceToTheTop]

Third Oregon player in the portal:  Dezdrick Lindsay.  Made 8 starts, averaged 5.3 points and 2.8 rebounds.  Shot 40/33/58.  20.5 minutes/game.  In no way a major player, but the list of players leaving Oregon keeps getting bigger.

[Kentuckysucks]

We're honestly probably gonna need $8M just to buy 2 quality bigs in the portal.  They will be in serious demand and command a King's ransom.

 

[Stuhoo]

10 hours ago, BGleas said:

The weirdest thing to me was Juwan Morgan's senior night speech. I remember him not even mentioning Archie Miller. Pretty sure he thanked Crean and the previous staff for recruiting him, but he didn't mention Miller by name. 

He was at IU for 4 years, but he definitely thrived under Miller. Miller was the one who essentially made him the focal point. Probably wasn't the best decision, but you'd think Morgan would be thankful for being showcased by Miller like that. 

Always thought that said a lot. 

Just went back and looked it up - mea culpa; Juwan was specifically grateful to Archie (and Crean). Go to the 12:00 mark:

By the way - it's a helluva good speech by an underrated really good player and a guy I'm proud to be a fellow alum with.

[Demo]

19 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We're honestly probably gonna need $8M just to buy 2 quality bigs in the portal.  They will be in serious demand and command a King's ransom.

 

He’s right, but I think for the most part it’s not just talented bigs, it’s bigs who’ve played a lot. TKR’s a 5th year. Ejiofor and Reed are Seniors. The 2 Michigan St bigs are both 5th years. Mast at Nebraska is 24. The 2 Illinois kids are young but they’ve been Pros since they were 16. Cenac for Houston is as talented as any of those dudes but he hasn’t played enough and he wasn’t ready for that deal. There aren’t many guys like that at all and, man, you’re right, are they gonna cost you. 

[str8baller]

35 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We're honestly probably gonna need $8M just to buy 2 quality bigs in the portal.  They will be in serious demand and command a King's ransom.

 

Maybe I’m taking crazy pills but hasn’t height always been a key element in basketball?   
 

I think because Woody only focused on bigs and woody wasn’t successful, IU fans got this weird notion they weren’t all that important to success. 
 

 

[Golfman25]

15 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Maybe I’m taking crazy pills but hasn’t height always been a key element in basketball?   
 

I think because Woody only focused on bigs and woody wasn’t successful, IU fans got this weird notion they weren’t all that important to success. 
 

 

I don’t think they are unimportant, but just one piece of the puzzle.  And it’s how you use them that’s more important.  We certainly don’t need to spend all the money on two.  You need competent bigs.  They don’t have to be the center point of your team.  

[Jeff Flabjohns]

1 hour ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We're honestly probably gonna need $8M just to buy 2 quality bigs in the portal.  They will be in serious demand and command a King's ransom.

 

Didn’t even mention MSU with Kohler and Cooper