Fred Glass Retiring

[mdn82]

I think IU suffers from a structural problem with governance. The BOT is mostly appointed by the governor. That means you get a lot of political suck-ups running a multi-billion dollar enterprise. And I think the results show it. 

Completely agree


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[Napleshoosier]

Let’s can McRobbie too! PLEASE!


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[8bucks]

I think IU suffers from a structural problem with governance. The BOT is mostly appointed by the governor. That means you get a lot of political suck-ups running a multi-billion dollar enterprise. And I think the results show it. 

Anyone know if this is a common practice for state schools?


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[pumpfake]

I have to say that there's a pretty stark contrast between our Athletic Department and say Nebraska's.  Traditionally, not a basketball powerhouse, they've had a decent stretch recently but decided it wasn't good enough and are (apparently) going to bring in a new coach.  Now look at our traditionally non-powerhouse football team (that's an understatement) and we bring in assistant coaches to become our head coach - most recently without even conducting any kind of real coaching search.

Taking all that into account, perhaps we should feel pretty lucky to have Archie coaching the BB team.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Great great podcast. I listened to the entire thing.

Biggest takeaway is the talk about Indiana’s compliance office. Snow says most compliance offices work to help BB stay within the rules. Snow says Indiana’s compliance office tries to catch Indiana cheating.

In the day in age where cheating wins, Indiana has directly limited its ceiling by not finding ways to work around/within the system.

Biggest limiting factor imo.


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[Feathery]

32 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Great great podcast. I listened to the entire thing.

Biggest takeaway is the talk about Indiana’s compliance office. Snow says most compliance offices work to help BB stay within the rules. Snow says Indiana’s compliance office tries to catch Indiana cheating.

In the day in age where cheating wins, Indiana has directly limited its ceiling by not finding ways to work around/within the system.

Biggest limiting factor imo.


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But who is over the compliance office? That could be a simple mandate for whoever is in charge to change focus to help the athletic programs work within the rules to maximize recruitment. 

[johnsoniu]

1 hour ago, 8bucks said:

Anyone know if this is a common practice for state schools?


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Purdue's is set up the same way as ours, but they have one more member who must be a graduate of the school of agriculture. (insert joke here)

The only other two I know off the top of my head are Oklahoma and Texas, who both have fully appointed boards.

[TheWatShot]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Great great podcast. I listened to the entire thing.

Biggest takeaway is the talk about Indiana’s compliance office. Snow says most compliance offices work to help BB stay within the rules. Snow says Indiana’s compliance office tries to catch Indiana cheating.

In the day in age where cheating wins, Indiana has directly limited its ceiling by not finding ways to work around/within the system.

Biggest limiting factor imo.


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Lot of good stuff, but at the same time, kind of depressing as well. Maybe we have a better coach now than we've had in awhile, but this just gives me the impression we'll always be our own worst enemy.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Lot of good stuff, but at the same time, kind of depressing as well. Maybe we have a better coach now than we've had in awhile, but this just gives me the impression we'll always be our own worst enemy.

Kinda where I am as well. Wait and see approach with IUBB for now on for me. No expectations. Treat it like IUFB.

Going to be hard to be a big boy if we aren’t allowed to act like one.


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[Brass Cannon]

It’s clear that Archie gets how to run a program but the fact he laughed when he heard the program budget for buy games is scary  

Interesting what Snow said about about the team next year. Archie has got to do better than a 6.5 or 7 though. 

 

[TheWatShot]

46 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

It’s clear that Archie gets how to run a program the fact he laughed when he heard his budget for buy games is scary. 

 

 

Can you apply some punctuation to this sentence so it's a bit more...understandable?

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, TheWatShot said:

Can you apply some punctuation to this sentence so it's a bit more...understandable?

Have you listened to the podcast?

[Joe DeLow]

Can you apply some punctuation to this sentence so it's a bit more...understandable?

Indiana was paying about 70k to beat a girls HS team while Dayton was paying over 100k. Indiana was being cheap compared to everyone else.


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[southernindianahoosier2]

On 3/21/2019 at 1:49 AM, Bailey7878 said:

So we were going to get beilein? Uugghhh.

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I've heard it Rick P, Alford, and now Beilein.

 

Honestly would rather have Rick P or Alford over Crean. Even if Rick P had to be fired, and lets say we had to do a major rebuild where we missed the tournament for 3 years.... Oh wait, that's what happened with Crean. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I've heard it Rick P, Alford, and now Beilein.
 
Honestly would rather have Rick P or Alford over Crean. Even if Rick P had to be fired, and lets say we had to do a major rebuild where we missed the tournament for 3 years.... Oh wait, that's what happened with Crean. 

Alford is Crean 2.0

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[southernindianahoosier2]

3 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Alford is Crean 2.0

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Oh I completely Agree. However, I do think that I would rather have had him for 9 years than Crean.

[Brass Cannon]

Something else snow said that I thought was interesting I thought was how the game is going to the guards.  Which is true but I’m not sure how true it is for the Big Ten. 

God I hope Delaneys replacement makes big changes

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Couple of things that I particularly noted in the podcast were Snow's comments that at the time of Crean's termination he thought Miller, Mack & Holtmann were the 3 best options.  He also commented that Crean was too intense in his recruiting and the longer he spent recruiting a kid, the less likely he was to land him as with the kid, parents, etc., Crean simply wore out his welcome.   Snow also said that negative player comments on boards - he didn't specifically say btb - did have an impact on the Brooks recruitment.  Went out of his way to state the jury's still out on Jerome's basketball future but he thought it was a real positive he'd been cleared for contact.   Snow also said he thinks Lander and Love are high future IU targets.  He specifically said he didn't see Morton as a difference maker but didn't go into why.  And when he made his comment about IU Compliance that Doc noted on the previous page he added that IU was much too slow to evolve away from Knight.

The podcast runs 2 hours and covers a lot of different topics but from around the 34 to 50 minute mark the conversation was solely about Crean and it ends up with Priller's recruitment and how Snow thought it was a joke when he first heard about it!  

That first 34 minutes is pretty much just social chit chat so you can shorten up your listening commitment by jumping to that 34 min. mark.  It really is worth your time.

[Brass Cannon]

7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Couple of things that I particularly noted in the podcast were Snow's comments that at the time of Crean's termination he thought Miller, Mack & Holtmann were the 3 best options.  He also commented that Crean was too intense in his recruiting and the longer he spent recruiting a kid, the less likely he was to land him as with the kid, parents, etc., Crean simply wore out his welcome.   Snow also said that negative player comments on boards - he didn't specifically say btb - did have an impact on the Brooks recruitment.  Went out of his way to state the jury's still out on Jerome's basketball future but he thought it was a real positive he'd been cleared for contact.   Snow also said he thinks Lander and Love are high future IU targets.  He specifically said he didn't see Morton as a difference maker but didn't go into why.  And when he made his comment about IU Compliance that Doc noted on the previous page he added that IU was much too slow to evolve away from Knight.

The podcast runs 2 hours and covers a lot of different topics but from around the 34 to 50 minute mark the conversation was solely about Crean and it ends up with Priller's recruitment and how Snow thought it was a joke when he first heard about it!  

That first 34 minutes is pretty much just social chit chat so you can shorten up your listening commitment by jumping to that 34 min. mark.  It really is worth your time.

Favorite part was the coach that withdraws 500 in cash every day from his personal bank account. 

Thats 182500 to pay to recruits

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

10 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Favorite part was the coach that withdraws 500 in cash every day from his personal bank account. 

Thats 182500 to pay to recruits

OMG yes.  How did I ever forget that one.