Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I like our offensive assistants. Wouldn't want an OC to come in a clean house. Alford Bailey, ThompsonHoosier and Lebowski 3 Quote
TXHoosierDaddy Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: I like our offensive assistants. Wouldn't want an OC to come in a clean house. Is it common for an OC to clean house when coming to a new job in college? I've been around programs where a coordinator was brought in and don't remember that entire side of the ball ever having more than one or two guys leave. I mean this basically happens at Bama with the OC every year and I'm pretty sure Saban doesn't go out and get new WR, RB, QB coaches each time too. Hard to understand where the divide was here exactly. I hope the hire doesn't end up being internal. Quote
TXHoosierDaddy Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, MisterBigRig said: I don't blame Tom Allen for not wanting to shake up the offensive staff for Matt Canada. He is a journeyman offensive coordinator who usually only stays for one year. He's a very good play caller don't get me wrong, but I just don't see the value in replacing the offensive staff for a likely one year stint by him. Pat Narduzzi, Matt Canada Have Discussed Pitt Return I mentioned this the other day. He was run out at LSU and basically a new staff was assembled at Maryland with the new hire. He is an IU guy so on one hand you can point to this and on the other you can point to the fact that maybe he would have come home for a good while. Can't imagine anyone likes switching gigs every year. Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said: Is it common for an OC to clean house when coming to a new job in college? I was thinking maybe one or two guys go. Hard to understand where the divide was here exactly. I hope the hire doesn't end up being internal. Dunno and won't know. We'll see where we end up I guess. Quote
Hoosier116 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I get wanting a complete offensive staff overhaul had we fired DeBo but he just retired. Whoever it is can’t expect Allen to axe his whole offensive staff just to bring him in. I see both sides I GUESS. Sure Canada would want guys that he feels good with but Hart, Heard and Sheridan seem like dudes you could work with to me. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
lucel15 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Yeah no matter who the HC is in this situation......mike hart and Sheridan have value and he wanted to clean house.....next. I would’ve given him a chance, but to say Tom Allen is going to Tom Allen....lol that’s funny. Sheridan and Hart weren’t the problems and they are some of our best recruiters and you’d be fine if they were just banished. Lol JaybobHoosier, ThompsonHoosier, MemphisHoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
jmsgws Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/01/10/pat-narduzzi-matt-canada-have-discussed-pitt-return/?fbclid=IwAR2D7j7mxvi-TvlZ1AdI3dYiqwgxyeayxtUE6kU1_4-fYgpReQtV7Oaw8Uw According to this article IU did talk to Canada, but he turned it down, because he wanted to hire his own staff. Quote
Naturalhoosier Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, jmsgws said: https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/01/10/pat-narduzzi-matt-canada-have-discussed-pitt-return/?fbclid=IwAR2D7j7mxvi-TvlZ1AdI3dYiqwgxyeayxtUE6kU1_4-fYgpReQtV7Oaw8Uw According to this article IU did talk to Canada, but he turned it down, because he wanted to hire his own staff. Pay attention George! Geeeesh! ;) ThompsonHoosier and 8bucks 2 Quote
Naturalhoosier Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Naturalhoosier said: Jeebus. Is CTA a control freak? That's not an ideal view for a program to have when attempting to build a program from nothing. Give the OC and DC a longer rope to do what they want. I want to slow walk my prior statement back a tad as my knee-jerk reaction was probably a bit extreme. I 100% appreciate the loyalty that he is showing his offensive coaches by not allowing someone to come in and clean house. I am a big fan of Mike Hart and it would be a loss to lose him imo. Hoosier116, JaybobHoosier and thebigweave 3 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Here’s my thing. If Canada wanted to get rid of them from the start I think that’s absurd. At least try to work together and then if things aren’t working you can assemble a new staff Quote
Aaron Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I am not bowing to anything Matt Canada wants. If this was some elite offensive coordinator and Allen would not let him hire his own staff or have more leeway I would have a problem, but given Canada's mediocre stint here previously (which was not totally his fault admittedly) I have no problem with not bowing to his demands and finding someone else. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Im sure cool dad didnt want to go through all the work to hire new assistants. Not upset if we dont get Canada though. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, HoosierAloha said: IU football is going to IU football Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Til they prove different Quote
TheWatShot Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Im sure cool dad didnt want to go through all the work to hire new assistants. Not upset if we dont get Canada though. He's probably hoping Allen knocks it out of the park on this one so that when Allen gets fired, he'll have his next head coach ready to step in. Josh, Kepner and Hoosierfan2017 3 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, TheWatShot said: He's probably hoping Allen knocks it out of the park on this one so that when Allen gets fired, he'll have his next head coach ready to step in. Hoping he knocks its out of the park....for cheap. Josh and VPC 1 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Hoping he knocks its out of the park....for cheap. Whatcha mean we are going to get the best high school coach available. Well outside of Texas. No way we can compete with those salaries Quote
LIHoosier Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Hoping he knocks its out of the park....for cheap. 20 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Whatcha mean we are going to get the best high school coach available. Well outside of Texas. No way we can compete with those salaries I'm sure there's someone in the Madden E-League that's averaging 40+ pts/game. Maybe we can bring them onboard for $50K and the new XBox. WayneFleekHoosier and Alford Bailey 2 Quote
KzooHoosier82 Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Brass Cannon said: Here’s my thing. If Canada wanted to get rid of them from the start I think that’s absurd. At least try to work together and then if things aren’t working you can assemble a new staff Agreed, but no one knows exactly what this all means. All the article says is that Canada wanted a larger say/role in the decision making for his offensive staff and Allen wouldn't agree to it. To assume he wanted to "clean house" is doing so blind with no insight to the situation. No one with Matt Canada's resume is going to take a job where the HC says you don't have the authority to hire and fire your assistants. That's setting yourself up for failure and a very frustrating tenure knowing your assistants don't answer to you, they answer only to Allen. At the end of the day all this means is we're going to get an unproven "Yes" man OC with an underwhelming resume. Allen is and has always been in over his head, I don't know why anyone would expect different now. Edited January 11, 2019 by KzooHoosier82 RealIU 1 Quote
JSHoosier Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 16 hours ago, LIHoosier said: I'm sure there's someone in the Madden E-League that's averaging 40+ pts/game. Maybe we can bring them onboard for $50K and the new XBox. Don't give Glass any ideas. Iugradman, LIHoosier and Stuhoo 2 1 Quote
Hoosier116 Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Thirsting and begging for any info on this search lol. Anyone got anything!? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Kepner 1 Quote
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