Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 There would've been zero benefit to the student section chanting anything related to the sexual assault controversy. The media would've spun it in a way that makes IU look bad, and we don't need that kind of bad publicity. The situation has nothing to do with us. It was best to stay out of it. It isn't like our chants would've been what took Izzo down, anyway. woodenshoemanHoosierfan, ThompsonHoosier and HinnyHoosier 3 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 There would've been zero benefit to the student section chanting anything related to the sexual assault controversy. The media would've spun it in a way that makes IU look bad, and we don't need that kind of bad publicity. The situation has nothing to do with us. It was best to stay out of it. It isn't like our chants would've been what took Izzo down, anyway.Correct. The chants would have been the story. Not the story. Not the women. The school itself is doing everything it can to retain him. I can promise you the people that wanted to chant or say something did. I was there that game. Same as every other school they faced. Can’t believe that card got some up in arms. It was more about the cursing on national TV. A lot of people are done with that. It was out of hand this year.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosierfan2017 and IUsafety 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: There would've been zero benefit to the student section chanting anything related to the sexual assault controversy. The media would've spun it in a way that makes IU look bad, and we don't need that kind of bad publicity. The situation has nothing to do with us. It was best to stay out of it. It isn't like our chants would've been what took Izzo down, anyway. 34 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: There would've been zero benefit to the student section chanting anything related to the sexual assault controversy. The media would've spun it in a way that makes IU look bad, and we don't need that kind of bad publicity. The situation has nothing to do with us. It was best to stay out of it. It isn't like our chants would've been what took Izzo down, anyway. False the benefit would be this wouldn't be swept under the rug. because it wouldn't have gone out of the public consciousness MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: False the benefit would be this wouldn't be swept under the rug. because it wouldn't have gone out of the public consciousness It's not on IU to hold Izzo accountable. If MSU planned on sweeping it under the rug a couple chants from the IU student section wouldn't stop them. It wouldn't have benefitted IU in the slightest, but it definitely could have hurt us. The story wouldn't have been "wow look at how courageous the IU fans were," it would've been "the IU fans are so disrespectful, another black mark for a once great program." Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, coonhounds said: This seems a bit to optimistic. I dont think they will rig the tournament and i think they would be happy with a duke kentucky type winner. If your theory is true i could see them rigging it for a purdue type to win which is scary as hell imo Sent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app jmo my message board guess not a bold prediction. future timeline for next few years? I see the Nassar related civil suits against State playing out loudly next. Sprinkle in some more FBI bribe scandal facts coming to light. Then the civil suits against the NCAA play out causing NCAA to fidget. More bribe scandal facts come out. Civil suits involving athlete rapes play out. More bribe scandal. Just a guess, not a case I am staking. All the while I expect MSU recruiting to take hits. With the joy of coaching declining as the result, and nothing really left for Izzo to prove as a coach, I expect him to move on at some stage from what has now become much more negative and stressful than it used to be to something a lot more fun. He is 63 years old now. When the season is over he will have more time to reflect. ThompsonHoosier 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 I could have gone for the entire student section turning its back on MSU when they were announced with a message on the back of tshirts like "save the girl" or "pray for the victims." Follow the money and you'll find an answer. It's a sad truth that the NCAA and a lot of big time programs care more for the almighty dollar than doing the right thing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners LockdownD, bigrod and Deserthoozier 3 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: It's not on IU to hold Izzo accountable. If MSU planned on sweeping it under the rug a couple chants from the IU student section wouldn't stop them. It wouldn't have benefitted IU in the slightest, but it definitely could have hurt us. The story wouldn't have been "wow look at how courageous the IU fans were," it would've been "the IU fans are so disrespectful, another black mark for a once great program." It's not about IUs job it's about being a decent human being/organization. Its not my job to give first aid to somebody who is hurt but I've done it. And yes if every single student section had changed that it was time for izzo to step down then this story is still getting talked about and the pressure would have kept building. MikeRoberts, Banksyrules and Deserthoozier 3 Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/15/2018 at 4:49 AM, coonhounds said: This seems a bit to optimistic. I dont think they will rig the tournament and i think they would be happy with a duke kentucky type winner. If your theory is true i could see them rigging it for a purdue type to win which is scary as hell imo Sent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app Well, whaddya know? Major Upset Alert. 13 BUF over 4 AZ lol. Could be anything. But also could be a "hmmm..." And now there goes State. Buh-bye. Doesn't prove anything, but teams rolling in the mud at tourney time seem to go down in just about every sport. I tend to think that is at least partly influenced by each sport's interest in marketing the brand. Hutch89 1 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Win baby win. I guess not this year but enough to turn a blind eye.Tom Izzo on returning to Michigan State: ‘I don’t plan on going anywhere’Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 I picked Michigan State to win it all in 2014, 2016, and this year. I had them in the final four in 2012 when they were a 1 seed. Izzo used to be known for playing deep into March. Since surprisingly making the final four in 2015 his teams have flopped. I feel like the last five-six years he has had the most talent he has had since the Flintstones days. Gary Harris, Adrien Payne, Keith Appling, Denzel Valentine, Draymond Green, Miles Bridges, Jaren Jackson just to name a few. I wonder what has been going on. Quote
Diadem Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 59 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: Win baby win. I guess not this year but enough to turn a blind eye. Tom Izzo on returning to Michigan State: ‘I don’t plan on going anywhere’ Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I'd take anything Izzo says right now with a grain of salt and a shot of bourbon . I say MSU lets him retire and he does! Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 I'd take anything Izzo says right now with a grain of salt and a shot of bourbon . I say MSU lets him retire and he does!They don't have the guts to fire him.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 I came home from eating fish at the KC Hall. Fox was on and the were interviewing one of the ladies from MSU who was assaulted. I just caught the tail end, but it sounded like she was complaining that MSU is trying to sweep everything under the rug. I'll try to find the interview online and post it.Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk MIUGA, WayneFleekHoosier and RatpigHoosier 3 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Report: MSU spent $500K to monitor Larry Nassar's victimshttps://video.foxnews.com/v/5761261602001/Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Popular Post Deserthoozier Posted March 31, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Clearly institutional collusion, not lack of institutional control! They fire/sacrifice president and bring in greasy politician to lead damage control. Embarrassing. Betting Izzo along with MSU as a University walks away clean. Look at PSU and UNC. This stuff is egregious! Those who lawyer up win and pay no penalty. Lives were impacted here. Makes me question commitment to continuing to watch and support college athletics. Edited March 31, 2018 by Deserthoozier HoosierTrav, pumpfake, ThompsonHoosier and 7 others 10 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Clearly institutional collusion, not lack of institutional control! They fire/sacrifice president and bring in greasy politician to lead damage control. Embarrassing. Betting Izzo along with MSU as a University walks away clean. Look at PSU and UNC. This stuff is egregious! Those who lawyer up win and pay no penalty. Lives were impacted here. Makes me question commitment to continuing to watch and support college athletics.People's lives? It's all about the money and has been for quite some time. It's absolutely disgusting that institutions of "higher education" go so far to project an imagine of "doing things the right way." The NCAA has known about any number of wrongdoings by universities for years. They choose to keep their mouths shut and pockets loaded. Why should/would universities handle things differently when the very institution that governs them chooses to cover things up?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app jonz44, Iugradman, cthomas and 1 other 4 Quote
323SGrant Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Clearly institutional collusion, not lack of institutional control! They fire/sacrifice president and bring in greasy politician to lead damage control. Embarrassing. Betting Izzo along with MSU as a University walks away clean. Look at PSU and UNC. This stuff is egregious! Those who lawyer up win and pay no penalty. Lives were impacted here. Makes me question commitment to continuing to watch and support college athletics.I also expect Izzo and MSU to walk away clean.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
AZ Hoosier Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 48 minutes ago, 323SGrant said: I also expect Izzo and MSU to walk away clean. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app This kind of crap makes me want to puke. 323SGrant 1 Quote
323SGrant Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 No doubt!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
southsidehoosier Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 http://www.wilx.com/content/sports/REPORT-Michigan-State-basketball-player-charged-with-assault-478992543.htmlSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha 1 Quote
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