Corruption in College Basketball

[HoosierTrav 7,928]

15 minutes ago, rcsalway29 said:

Can MSU really continue on with Izzo and think they can somehow save face? This piled on with the ongoing investigation has to be too much right?

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Izzo is toast.....he knows it. His team knows it. His recruits know it. He gone.

[OliviaPope40 6,691]

 

[Uspshoosier 46,929]

I know he was a client of ASM. Just saying I wonder how far back the data goes, and wonder what could happen if some Balance Sheet from 2001 popped up.

According to Alex Bozich, ASM wasn’t established until 2007 and Jeffries left IU in 2002


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[coonhounds 9,491]

The current players who are listed will probably start sitting immediately right. I would bet they would if it was iu. Were any significant contributors on there

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[reconmkd 4,557]

pUKe fans not incredibly happy this morning but did say at least when Noel played they can erase that NIT crap season,

[bigrod 2,905]

18 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

As others have said, if IU was cheating/benefiting from cheating over the last few years it's pathetic. I mean what are we the Dollar General of corruption? How much did McRoberts get under the table? What is the going rate for a +100 ranked player like OG? What kind of car is Al Durham driving?  

Sheesh, if you cheat and JBJ and Thomas Bryant are the best you can do.....I don't even know what to say.

I want the hammer to fall. Kentucky, UNC and Duke are on my most wanted list. Syracuse and Kansas are close behind. D-bags make me sick. 

 

 

I've said that before: If Crean was cheating, he certainly wasn't very good at it.

[johnsoniu 6,680]

Over/Under on when the Atlanta Hawks announce Calipari as their new HC? 

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

58 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

According to Alex Bozich, ASM wasn’t established until 2007 and Jeffries left IU in 2002


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Good to know.

[cthomas 6,524]

It takes the NCAA forever to resolve one case. There is no way they can deal with anything this pervasive. More likely, this will lead to a rewriting of the rule book that, much like phone-gate, will make some of this stuff go away. I just don't see much happening given, as so many posters have pointed out, the amount of money involved.

[Dalton26 16,892]

Dont get your hopes up fellas. In all likelyhood no one will get punished, the NCAA will not allow themselves to lose money so we are probably looking at rule changes and a "lets all move on" from the NCAA.

[mdn82 25,546]

 
$14,000 initially from those two pages!
Who knows how much more lurks.
Hold your breath for Bryant, Vonleh, and Troy. I'm not especially worried about Crean, but who knows what those kids did behind the scenes.
No player on our current roster worries me at all; MSB is "priceless.".
 
 
 

If we have to give back a Sweet 16 on B1G title for impermissible benefits I am cool with it. I see them striking down the coaches that had direct knowledge of this and set up that direct link during recruiting. Cases listed in the article are for sure impermissible benefits, but they will cause vacated wins. It more hurts MSU and Duke that have current players on potential title teams. No way they can play those kids until this is cleaned up.


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[cthomas 6,524]

10 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

It more hurts MSU and Duke that have current players on potential title teams. No way they can play those kids until this is cleaned up.

Not sure about this part. I can see them taking their chances and challenging, stalling, and who knows what else if the NCAA comes after them.

[coonhounds 9,491]

If we have to give back a Sweet 16 on B1G title for impermissible benefits I am cool with it. I see them striking down the coaches that had direct knowledge of this and set up that direct link during recruiting. Cases listed in the article are for sure impermissible benefits, but they will cause vacated wins. It more hurts MSU and Duke that have current players on potential title teams. No way they can play those kids until this is cleaned up.


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That was my question thanks. Probably have to sit the current players imo.

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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,937]

I've been riding this train long before the FBI made it public. If you follow Indiana recruiting through the Sampson and Crean years and pay attention to recruiting and the NCAA landscape, you knew all this as well.

OPEN up the entire can of worms. IDC if we publicly allow these players to legally make money. Lots of ways to do it.


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16 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

Dont get your hopes up fellas. In all likelyhood no one will get punished, the NCAA will not allow themselves to lose money so we are probably looking at rule changes and a "lets all move on" from the NCAA.

Sadly, that's very likely.  Even with several of the proverbial "smoking guns", I can see the NCAA doing little to nothing about it.  After all, they had all the evidence needed to nail UNC and they basically just gave them a pat on the back and an 'attaboy'.

[Dalton26 16,892]

1 minute ago, pumpfake said:

Sadly, that's very likely.  Even with several of the proverbial "smoking guns", I can see the NCAA doing little to nothing about it.  After all, they had all the evidence needed to nail UNC and they basically just gave them a pat on the back and an 'attaboy'.

Same thing with teams like UK. Calipari has a history of cheating(although he isnt very good at it, 1 national championship with all of that talent is laughable), and everyone outside of UK fans point out whats going on and the NCAA wont even touch them. If the list was full of only bottom feeding schools then theyd drop the hammer, but tsince there are a lot of money maker schools on the list they wont even get a papercut.

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

$14,000 initially from those two pages!

Who knows how much more lurks.

Hold your breath for Bryant, Vonleh, and Troy. I'm not especially worried about Crean, but who knows what those kids did behind the scenes.

No player on our current roster worries me at all; MSB is "priceless.".

 

 

 

It's kinda of striking to see the players getting money here. At this point, i'd be shocked if an IU player didn't get anything. I mean, check out some of these names:

DJ Newbill (Penn St)

Feed Van Vleet (really?)

Maybe these loans were after they turned pro, who knows. But if those players are getting money from agents in college it is truly a cancer on the sport.

[bigrod 2,905]

1 minute ago, pumpfake said:

Sadly, that's very likely.  Even with several of the proverbial "smoking guns", I can see the NCAA doing little to nothing about it.  After all, they had all the evidence needed to nail UNC and they basically just gave them a pat on the back and an 'attaboy'.

I would never defend the NCAA, but UNC getting lawyers involved and instructing them to deny everything (even stuff they had admitted at one point), had an awful lot to do with that result. I don't exactly have first hand knowledge, but my understanding from some people who followed it pretty closely was that the NCAA wanted to nail them for academic fraud, but the lawyers tied their hands pretty well.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

Quick wrap up:

UK: Bam Adebayo, Kevin Knox

Duke: Wendell Carter

Kansas: Josh Jackson

MSU: Miles Bridges

And of course Vanderbilt: Wade Baldwin

There are others I know, but out of all that report, UK honestly is the only school that may have anything even happen too. 

[Dalton26 16,892]

if you guys want a good laugh today go check out the UK boards. Its denial city over there, and the belief that the NCAA is so hard on them and no one else. Its great lol