2020 General Recruiting Thread

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

B1G Perspective on final 2020 rankings from 247:

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Indiana-big-ten-recap-final-2020-player-rankings-update-146852657/

[Stuhoo]

19 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

B1G Perspective on final 2020 rankings from 247:

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Indiana-big-ten-recap-final-2020-player-rankings-update-146852657/

Wow; other than Illinois and IU with a Lander reclass, that’s a giant fail by the B1G.

 

[mdn82]

I was really surprised to see OSU’s class after last year. Figured it would bring some momentum. Juwan won’t make the locals happy with that class either. I don’t think most of us would be happy without a Lander reclass. Odd year in B1G recruiting.


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[Brass Cannon]

18 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I was really surprised to see OSU’s class after last year. Figured it would bring some momentum. Juwan won’t make the locals happy with that class either. I don’t think most of us would be happy without a Lander reclass. Odd year in B1G recruiting.


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Lotta good teams with 3-5 starters returning I imagine didn’t help too much. But yeah. Bad year. SEC must have raised their salary cap. 

[HoosierAloha]

When was the last time the Big Ten really dominated in recruiting rankings though? The Big Ten is more of a get old, stay old league while the $EC and ACC are raking in the 5* with “straight cash money, homie.”


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[mdn82]

When was the last time the Big Ten really dominated in recruiting rankings though? The Big Ten is more of a get old, stay old league while the $EC and ACC are raking in the 5* with “straight cash money, homie.”


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I don’t disagree with the overall point you are making on paying 5* to go to the B1G but I was more speaking to we only have 2 teams with a top 25 class. Usually we will have around 4 or 5 of not more. Across the board it’s a down year mostly. Wisconsin and Purdue are right outside of the top 25. I just can’t recall a year where it was like this.


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[Honkyman]

HoosierAloha asks "When was the last time the Big Ten dominated in recruiting?"

It certainly has been a long time. Which might help explain why the last time a Big Ten team won a NCAA basketball championship was 20 years ago (Michigan State--2000). And before 2000? (Michigan 1989). And before that? (Indiana 1987; Indiana 1981). Indiana won championships with highly recruited players.  The 1976 Indiana team had 3 players who were considered top 10 players in high school (Buckner and Benson were considered the top players in the country at their respective positions in high school).  The 1981 team had Isiah Thomas and Landon Turner, both McDonald's All Americans. Great recruiting gives college teams a chance to compete for a national championship or at least be among the top ranked teams in the country.  Assuming Kristian Lander re-classifies, Indiana will have two McDonald's All Americans next season and that will give them a chance to at least compete for the Big Ten championship. 

 

[TheWatShot]

We've got to start landing more players in the 25-75 range. Not writing off our incoming freshmen, but those numbers are fine if your goal is finishing 5th in the Big Ten every year and losing the first weekend of the tourney. 

[Brass Cannon]

40 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

We've got to start landing more players in the 25-75 range. Not writing off our incoming freshmen, but those numbers are fine if your goal is finishing 5th in the Big Ten every year and losing the first weekend of the tourney. 

If we are relying on freshmen to contribute then I would agree with you. If we can get old and stay old I think it’s fine. 

[chicagoHOOSIER]

On 4/29/2020 at 11:32 AM, HoosierAloha said:

I’d be happy if it developed like the unheralded 2010 class.. I’m not saying Geronimo will be Oladipo but that class wasn’t hyped. We got a star that developed and an extremely important role player.


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I remember some people trashing the 2010 class pretty good in 2010. 

[chicagoHOOSIER]

On 5/6/2020 at 5:43 PM, HoosierAloha said:

When was the last time the Big Ten really dominated in recruiting rankings though? The Big Ten is more of a get old, stay old league while the $EC and ACC are raking in the 5* with “straight cash money, homie.”


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Without delving into it yet to back my following statement up with facts, on first glance it appears to this IU fan that Illinois has made it back into the pros after a significant absence.

[Demo]

1 hour ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

Without delving into it yet to back my following statement up with facts, on first glance it appears to this IU fan that Illinois has made it back into the pros after a significant absence.

Yup. Underwood is fantastic. I’m a fan. What he did last year altering his spread actions to accommodate Cockburn’s game without killing their movement was great stuff. Big 10 recruiting may always be a challenge with the physical nature of the game. But it’s the best coached conference in the country, no doubt. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Yup. Underwood is fantastic. I’m a fan. What he did last year altering his spread actions to accommodate Cockburn’s game without killing their movement was great stuff. Big 10 recruiting may always be a challenge with the physical nature of the game. But it’s the best coached conference in the country, no doubt. 

The style of play is the conferences fault. They want trashy basketball. The Big Ten just isn’t full of stars. At least none that the media and social media care about. Last year there was Winston and Garza but they weren’t exactly the most exciting to watch. But the Big Ten doesn’t allow or want the floor to open up for athletes to be athletes.


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[TheWatShot]

11 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

If we are relying on freshmen to contribute then I would agree with you. If we can get old and stay old I think it’s fine. 

You need to get old with talented players or it doesn't matter. 

[Brass Cannon]

15 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

You need to get old with talented players or it doesn't matter. 

Does it? 
 

Wisconsin just won the league with 3 members of their primary rotation 200+. Highest ranked guy was 66th. 
 

Texas Tech was in the title game the last season we had one and their highest ranked guy was 132nd. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

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Disagree in part. UK may have one title but they’ve been in the running virtually every single year.

I prefer to get to know players and such and if we can be as successful as UK using that model then great.

Winning is the most fun though. UK wins. The model is likely exhausting but it works.


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[Brass Cannon]

18 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Disagree in part. UK may have one title but they’ve been in the running virtually every single year.

I prefer to get to know players and such and if we can be as successful as UK using that model then great.

Winning is the most fun though. UK wins. The model is likely exhausting but it works.


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I think the real key is multi year talented players. Trayce most likely Lander and TK fit that mold. 
 

But as long as our lowest ranked guys are 80-130 I think we will be fine as long as we can keep them from transferring and get to benefit from their senior years. 
 

If we get a 5 star every year and our lowest ranked guys are still in the top 150 we will be one of the more talented teams in the conference. 

[BGleas]

29 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Disagree in part. UK may have one title but they’ve been in the running virtually every single year.

I prefer to get to know players and such and if we can be as successful as UK using that model then great.

Winning is the most fun though. UK wins. The model is likely exhausting but it works.


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Yeah, not to turn this thread sideways, but Calipari has been extremely successful at UK. I know National Titles are the goal and he's had a ton of talent, but National Titles are hard and also take a great deal of luck. 

Cal has been to 7 Elite Eights and 4 Final Fours in 10 years at UK (not counting this season since there was no tournament). Indiana has been to 8 Elite Eights and 6 Final Fours in the last 47 years. So yes, while 1 National Title has been a little disappointing for him, Cal has been wildly successful at UK. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Yeah, not to turn this thread sideways, but Calipari has been extremely successful at UK. I know National Titles are the goal and he's had a ton of talent, but National Titles are hard and also take a great deal of luck. 
Cal has been to 7 Elite Eights and 4 Final Fours in 10 years at UK (not counting this season since there was no tournament). Indiana has been to 8 Elite Eights and 6 Final Fours in the last 47 years. So yes, while 1 National Title has been a little disappointing for him, Cal has been wildly successful at UK. 

Absolutely, and many of their fans still aren’t happy. Sure, some Indiana fans may react in kind, but give me results anywhere even close to that and I’m happy as a lark.


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