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25 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Rick Pitino was 37 when he took the Kentucky job and he only had mediocre success with smaller programs and as an assistant with the Knicks before that.

Pitino took Providence to a Final Four, then went to the NBA -- where he was the Knicks' HEAD COACH -- before going to Kentucky. 

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2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Pitino took Providence to a Final Four, then went to the NBA -- where he was the Knicks' HEAD COACH -- before going to Kentucky. 

You're right. He was an assistant in New York BEFORE coaching Providence. Does that change the point I'm making though? These guys were all relative unknowns when they took over their respective programs and had major success. 

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53 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

You're right. He was an assistant in New York BEFORE coaching Providence. Does that change the point I'm making though? These guys were all relative unknowns when they took over their respective programs and had major success. 

I get what you are trying to say, but Pitino is not a good example of it in my opinion. He took over a Providence program that had not won more than 15 games in the 7 seasons before he arrived AFTER winning two conference titles in 4 seasons at literal Boston University (Another program that won more than 15 games in a season once in the 15 years before he got there!). Then he made a FF run in year two at Providence. Then he parlayed that  job into a NBA head job with included him winning a division title the year before he took the UK job. He was much more accomplished when taking his first big college job than others on your list. 

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I get what you are trying to say, but Pitino is not a good example of it in my opinion. He took over a Providence program that had not won more than 15 games in the 7 seasons before he arrived AFTER winning two conference titles in 4 seasons at literal Boston University (Another program that won more than 15 games in a season once in the 15 years before he got there!). Then he made a FF run in year two at Providence. Then he parlayed that  job into a NBA head job with included him winning a division title the year before he took the UK job. He was much more accomplished when taking his first big college job than others on your list. 

And Archie took over a Dayton program that had been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 21 yrs.he led them to 4 straight Appearances in his 6 yrs reign with an E8 appearance.

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32 minutes ago, iufaninillinois said:


And Archie took over a Dayton program that had been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 21 yrs.he led them to 4 straight Appearances in his 6 yrs reign with an E8 appearance.

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And? He's still not as established as Pitino. That's all my comment was saying.  I'm not putting Coach down in any way. Just saying the comparisons to Ricky P getting hired at UK aren't accurate.  

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18 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

And? He's still not as established as Pitino. That's all my comment was saying.  I'm not putting Coach down in any way. Just saying the comparisons to Ricky P getting hired at UK aren't accurate.  

I'm saying their resume's are actually pretty close, except Pitino won one more game one year.

Yeah Pitino had success in the NBA, but the NBA is a completely different game than college so I don't know if success in the NBA would translate to college, or help "prove" yourself as a coach in the college game.

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13 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Was watching the Thunder-Spurs game when they did a between-quarters interview with Billy Donovan. After he finished, I played the tape backwards and in a hidden message, he said: "I really wanted to coach Indiana, but my wife decided she didn't want to move to Bloomington. She's the boss." 

#BringBillyHome

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I'll admit I was pretty amazed to read the accounts of RMK's talk.  Very complimentary about CAM being our new coach and he even wore a red sweater.  However, I did see that the program for the event only listed his tenure at Texas Tech.  Truly an enigma.


Knight is something. He shouldn't be so quick to leave IU off his resume---without IU he doesn't have all those wins--the perfect season--the national titles--the red sweater--the coach of the year awards---the chair throw, and he is not a legend, etc. Of course, he does things like omit IU just to get a rise out of the university and our fan base. But-- deep down he knows better. Just as much as Knight helped make IU basketball---IU basketball helped make Knight. That is why he is always in Indiana for paid speeches and book signings. I loved Knight as a coach and he is one of the best ever--but he knows where his bread got buttered. Without IU he may have ended up as a bitter Walmart greeter and if he keeps it up he still might! Lol.


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2 big donors weigh on on Miller's hire.  Love this quote from Bart Kaufman:   “I don’t give a pig about press conferences,” Kaufman said. “I want him to win in the Big Ten.”

http://www.idsnews.com/article/2017/04/two-significant-iu-donors-give-positive-reviews-on-hiring-of-archie-miller

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