Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[LIHoosier]

10 hours ago, AFISH said:

Not sure if Hartman playing as a walk on has been mentioned but that maybe an option that is not being mentioned.


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10 hours ago, mdn82 said:

That won't happen. He can continue on with his grad degree at this point.


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With the rumors that he had a good job if he wasn't welcomed back to the roster next year, its 99.9% unlikely that he would announce his return without being guaranteed a free ride for the season.

[IUsafety]

With the rumors that he had a good job if he wasn't welcomed back to the roster next year, its 99.9% unlikely that he would announce his return without being guaranteed a free ride for the season.

Maybe his future employer has a good tuition reimbursement program.


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[Zach Farmer]

13 hours ago, Hoosier Guy said:

If Clifton Moore comes to IU, then 3 players are gonna have to leave. OG is already gone so we need two more. I think it would be either Gelon and Priller or Gelon and Blackmon

Bryant and Blackmon will leave and Moore will round out the 13th and final scholarship

[Stromboli]

9 minutes ago, Zach Farmer said:

Bryant and Blackmon will leave and Moore will round out the 13th and final scholarship

As much as I like the recruits, this would not be a net gain. 

[Hoosier Guy]

16 minutes ago, Zach Farmer said:

Bryant and Blackmon will leave and Moore will round out the 13th and final scholarship

I think Blackmon gone is way more likely than Bryant. I don't see how Bryant is gone though

[Hoosier Guy]

OT, but are we gonna have a separate Pacers/Cavs series thread or will that just be in the NBA thread?

[rebelhoosier848891]

I like the potential of Moore as it is great having a big to develop on the bench but if he comes I am fearing it means TB won't be back--I sure would like to see what Archie could do with the big fella (TB) for a year. Obviously Coach has a plan that will soon become a lot more clear!

 

 

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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

If CAM is concerned about being in an oversigned position, and I'm still not convinced he is, there is 1 possibility for relief.  From Moore's quotes, it sounds like redshirting is a no-no in his mind.  So, all CAM has to do is push the fact we want him at IU but he needs a redshirt year.  If it is a big deal to Moore then 1 less oversigned issue.  If he still wants to come to IU, we're in no worse position than we are right now and we just have to wait for the dominoes.

[LamarCheeks]

5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

If CAM is concerned about being in an oversigned position, and I'm still not convinced he is, there is 1 possibility for relief.  From Moore's quotes, it sounds like redshirting is a no-no in his mind.  So, all CAM has to do is push the fact we want him at IU but he needs a redshirt year.  If it is a big deal to Moore then 1 less oversigned issue.  If he still wants to come to IU, we're in no worse position than we are right now and we just have to wait for the dominoes.

Moore had asked to be released from his LOI. If CAM were concerned about being oversigned, I would think he would just grant him the release. I have a feeling CAM has a pretty good idea of who's staying and who's going. Otherwise, he would just forget Moore. Unless he knows something (which he must), there would be no reason to continue to pursue Moore. 

[Zach Farmer]

47 minutes ago, Stromboli said:

As much as I like the recruits, this would not be a net gain. 

Would not be a net gain but it's the reality

 

[Zach Farmer]

38 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I think Blackmon gone is way more likely than Bryant. I don't see how Bryant is gone though

Blackmon always wanted to go pro and my gut says Bryant is leaving cause of the scholarship situation

[Kepner]

45 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

If CAM is concerned about being in an oversigned position, and I'm still not convinced he is, there is 1 possibility for relief.  From Moore's quotes, it sounds like redshirting is a no-no in his mind.  So, all CAM has to do is push the fact we want him at IU but he needs a redshirt year.  If it is a big deal to Moore then 1 less oversigned issue.  If he still wants to come to IU, we're in no worse position than we are right now and we just have to wait for the dominoes.

I'm pretty sure even if a player redshirted, they still count against the scholarship numbers. So having Moore come in and automatically redshirt would not "solve" anything.

[Str8Hoosiers]

8 minutes ago, Kepner said:

I'm pretty sure even if a player redshirted, they still count against the scholarship numbers. So having Moore come in and automatically redshirt would not "solve" anything.

I think he is saying Moore doesn't want to redshirt... so if CAM pushed the redshirt then Moore decides on his own to not attend IU. Makes it look like CAM really wanted him and didn't push him out nor have to get rid of somebody else already on scholarship.

[Hoosierfan2017]

The oversigning problem stinks, but it's a lot better than the mass exodus I was expecting if Crean had stayed. Losing both TB and JBJ would stink for next year, but it would be better for us in the long run imo. 

[Hoosier Guy]

1 hour ago, Zach Farmer said:

Blackmon always wanted to go pro and my gut says Bryant is leaving cause of the scholarship situation

Blackmon wanted to be one and done. And Bryant could stay and be the 13th scholarship. Clifton Moore is no guarantee

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

I think he is saying Moore doesn't want to redshirt... so if CAM pushed the redshirt then Moore decides on his own to not attend IU. Makes it look like CAM really wanted him and didn't push him out nor have to get rid of somebody else already on scholarship.

Thank you very much.  You did a far better job of explaining what my intended point was.  And Kepner you are correct, a redshirt is still a scholly.  

[recker222000]

Blackmon always wanted to go pro and my gut says Bryant is leaving cause of the scholarship situation

Starting to think they are both gone but we should still be decent imo.

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[DJ Candypants]

3 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Thank you very much.  You did a far better job of explaining what my intended point was.  And Kepner you are correct, a redshirt is still a scholly.  

Moore seems like a perfect redshirt scenario.  I really liked how Ryan used redshirts at Wisky, and the fact that this is even on the table makes me happy. By all indications Cujo would have been a redshirt under a coach like Ryan and by his second season more than likely a real factor. Same with Hartman in my opinion. I understand many players would not want to go this route, but look a player like Happ. He was not ready immediately and now is arguably one of the best big men in the country next season. Certainly one of the best in the big ten. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I think Moore is a lot more ready to contribute than most think. Bossi mentioned he wouldn't be surprised by a jump in the top 80 for the final rankings. TB is probably gonna leave IMO, so we will need Moore. Even if TB comes back and a injury happens we will be thin on depth.

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[recker222000]

I think Moore is a lot more ready to contribute than most think. Bossi mentioned he wouldn't be surprised by a jump in the top 80 for the final rankings. TB is probably gonna leave IMO, so we will need Moore. Even if TB comes back and a injury happens we will be thin on depth.

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I agree really starting to think only johnson of the three come back. Be nice to get a grad transfer also.

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