Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[HoosierAloha]

MSU, Wiscy, O$U, pu, Maryland all have bigs that need defended. Morgan wore down this season and wasn't the primary big defender. You want him to run at the 5 all season? Smith guarding an opponents 5...? No, thanks.

I want a grad transfer big in the mold of what I think Forrester will eventually be. Good length that can handle physical bigs but can step out and knockdown a 15 footer.

If Morgan is our primary big we'll struggle to make the tourney.


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[CSP]

30 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

MSU, Wiscy, O$U, pu, Maryland all have bigs that need defended. Morgan wore down this season and wasn't the primary big defender. You want him to run at the 5 all season? Smith guarding an opponents 5...? No, thanks.

I want a grad transfer big in the mold of what I think Forrester will eventually be. Good length that can handle physical bigs but can step out and knockdown a 15 footer.

If Morgan is our primary big we'll struggle to make the tourney.


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Osu has no inside threat whatsoever. Neither does Maryland..  just because they're tall doesn't mean they're a threat. Purdue won't have one next year... Wisconsin might not because Happ might leave. 

I've already said Davis will play against the big teams and he is serviceable... but green, rp, Durham, and Romeo isn't enough... not even close. 

[CSP]

We'll just have to agree to disagree go Hoosiers!!!

[HoosierAloha]

PSU has a developing Watkins. Maryland has a developing Bruno. That's in conference. If we want to compete for the top few spots in the Big Ten and be a solid tourney team we need a big that can defend and rebound while allowing Morgan to play the 4.

pu, MSU, Mich, and O$U are all tourney teams from the Big Ten. What do they have in common?

I completely agree we need a better backcourt too. I believe Phinisee solves some of those problems. If Green can mature more that will help greatly. Add Romeo or a grad transfer and we'll have a solid backcourt.


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[CSP]

8 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said:

Ummm....OSU has Wesson. Purdue has Haarms.

Ummmmm......and neither can score in the post. They can grab Orebs and set screens. 

[CSP]

30 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

PSU has a developing Watkins. Maryland has a developing Bruno. That's in conference. If we want to compete for the top few spots in the Big Ten and be a solid tourney team we need a big that can defend and rebound while allowing Morgan to play the 4.

pu, MSU, Mich, and O$U are all tourney teams from the Big Ten. What do they have in common?

I completely agree we need a better backcourt too. I believe Phinisee solves some of those problems. If Green can mature more that will help greatly. Add Romeo or a grad transfer and we'll have a solid backcourt.


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Literally watching Nova vs Bama now... there's been 3 total post ups in this game lol

If this were the 80s I would agree with you. It's like the fullback position in football. 

[CSP]

The mix of Davis, Thompson, and Morgan at the 5 is more than enough. Possibly Moore and Forrester for depth purposes. 

[Hardwood83]

51 minutes ago, btownqb said:

The mix of Davis, Thompson, and Morgan at the 5 is more than enough. Possibly Moore and Forrester for depth purposes. 

Like you said, we'll just have to disagree. I would like IU to have two legitimate Centers on the roster every year. There is never a time you'll say "man, I wish we didn't have such competent post play" Never. Not saying that the offense has to revolve around the post or that guard play isn't vital (we learned that painful lesson this year) just that Offense, Defense and rebounding all benefit from genuine big men.

Sure a 6'7" guy (Thompson, Morgan, Hartman, etc) CAN play down low, but it's not a recipe for winning at a high-level, IMO.

 

 

 

[BGleas]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Literally watching Nova vs Bama now... there's been 3 total post ups in this game lol

If this were the 80s I would agree with you. It's like the fullback position in football. 

Completely agree. The largest pain point on this roster is shooting, scoring, length and athleticism from the perimeter/wing. We need shooters/scorers from the perimeter. Adding Taylor and Langford would make IU really good next year. We just need our bigs to defend pic and roll, rebound, be athletic, etc. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

I'm not sure that centers are really all that necessary in college basketball today. I mean, 6'5 Freddie McSwain pulled down 16 rebounds against MSU's big boys. We need tough, nasty guys down low, even if they're only 6'7 or 6'8. 

[MikeRoberts]

Ummm....OSU has Wesson. Purdue has Haarms.

I was thinking the same thing, the majority of teams he listed have really good big men now and will next season. We need impact bigs, period


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[MikeRoberts]

I'm not sure that centers are really all that necessary in college basketball today. I mean, 6'5 Freddie McSwain pulled down 16 rebounds against MSU's big boys. We need tough, nasty guys down low, even if they're only 6'7 or 6'8. 

Right...?... and who won that game?

And against Wisconsin, and Purdue and just about every team we played with good big men we lost


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[Hoosierfan2017]

9 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Right...?... and who won that game?

And against Wisconsin, and Purdue and just about every team we played with good big men we lost


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Michigan State won the game, by three points, due in large part to Josh Newkirk going 0-6 and Rob Johnson going 2-15. Guard play was our problem this year. 

[CSP]

31 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I was thinking the same thing, the majority of teams he listed have really good big men now and will next season. We need impact bigs, period


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Again.. Neither of those players can score by themselves. Neither post up. 

[CSP]

31 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Right...?... and who won that game?

And against Wisconsin, and Purdue and just about every team we played with good big men we lost


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We beat ND and they have actual guys who post up, not the ones you mentioned. 

Nova was a top 3 team all year.. they have zero post presence. 

[CSP]

54 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Like you said, we'll just have to disagree. I would like IU to have two legitimate Centers on the roster every year. There is never a time you'll say "man, I wish we didn't have such competent post play" Never. Not saying that the offense has to revolve around the post or that guard play isn't vital (we learned that painful lesson this year) just that Offense, Defense and rebounding all benefit from genuine big men.

Sure a 6'7" guy (Thompson, Morgan, Hartman, etc) CAN play down low, but it's not a recipe for winning at a high-level, IMO.

 

 

 

But teams do win at a high level doing that. No teams have two legitimate centers on their team. Do you just mean two guys that are 6'10-6'11?

[Cheaney40]

So... Back on track.... Anyone talking about transfers lately? How about the JUCO guards that's been mentioned. Any news I've missed

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[CrimsonCreamer]

Ryan Welage is transferring from San Jose State. Junior averaged 18 ppg, shot 42% from 3. 6’9” 205 forward. From Greensburg, IN. Should be eligible immediately

[AKHoosier]

46 minutes ago, CrimsonCreamer said:

Ryan Welage is transferring from San Jose State. Junior averaged 18 ppg, shot 42% from 3. 6’9” 205 forward. From Greensburg, IN. Should be eligible immediately

Wow, very intriguing.  Wouldn't mind adding that kind of size and shooting ability to next year's team.

[CSP]

1 hour ago, Cheaney40 said:

So... Back on track.... Anyone talking about transfers lately? How about the JUCO guards that's been mentioned. Any news I've missed

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We literally are on track... talking about what kind of player we need to add.