TOM CREAN FIRED

[TrueHoosier62]

Wow some of the responses are pathetic... Because of one game, we now have no chance at anything? That seems ill-advised...

WTF is a "tournament coach" ???!

It's something we don't currently have

[coonhounds]

I am pulling for crean I have been since the turn around. Praying for a miracle but I was leary of this happening. In the grand scheme of things certain posters are right that this game means nothing and we can move on. I can not quite get there though because pressure is on now. If crean could have won or almost the big tourney that would have been a statement but now if he falls short in the big dance It will be a big deal imo

[Trish]

if this team doesn't make it out the first weekend, then it should be a big deal. No one should just brush it off. 

[seanmm1971]

Crean already bought next year with the conference title. If we make the second weekend of the tournament he will be here for the duration of his contract. IMO

*Unless BS, BD,or another big fish comes calling.

[biteoftheapple]

Some posters should have their keyboards taken away immediately after a loss.

[Brass Cannon]

Some posters should have their keyboards taken away immediately after a loss.

How does that refute any of the numerous valid points brought up in this topic.

[biteoftheapple]

I was not trying to refute a single point. There is just some anger driven craziness in some.

[TrueHoosier62]

When IU scores 69 points chances are we loose!

And there's not too many times that "69" and "lose" will be seen in the same sentence. Remarkable accomplishment today.

[TrueHoosier62]

‏@JohnBeilein: Thanks Tommy! Go Big Blue. Survive and advance.

Please tell me this was a gag, and not serious.

[TrueHoosier62]

LMAO

[Alford Bailey]

Call me names , irrational, crazy ect but I would fire Crean after a regular season title based on his BTT and post season record. Name me another blue blood program who has had anywhere close to as terrible of a record in their respective conference tourney?Its flat out embarrassing. Many say the BTT doesnt mean much but that is probably based on the fact weve been total crap competing in it. We fail miserably every year in this tournament and I'm sick of it. Rant over.

[Uwe Robb]

Yup. I doctored it up a bit.

Would be more believable from maybe Tim Miles.

[Old Friend]

For all of the success this season, Crean got abused by Belein today.  

 

1)  UM controlled tempo for 40 minutes

2)  At the end...our ball, tie game.  If you're the opposing coach, don't you WANT the ball out of Yogi's hands and in Williams' hands?  

3)  Substitutions today were.....almost unbelievable.   UM goes to a 1-3-1 half court trap, and youy leave Niego in to handle it??  Seriously?   Bryant makes great things happen on 3 straight possessions and you take him out.    You leave Hartman - who is giving you absolutely nothing - in for extended minutes when we're struggling to score.  Ryan Burton played.  Ryan.  Burton.   

4)  Formula for beating Indiana :  same as it's always been.  Completely take away transition, and don't allow perimeter shots.   Our half court offense is that bad.  If we have the perimeter taken away...we lose.    Or we're in a tight game we shouldn't be.

5)  Michigan made Indiana play defense for 30 seconds on every possession, and everything was going toward the rim for most of the game.  Meanwhile, out of a timeout, our offense was a running hook shot by Williams with 19 seconds left on the shot clock.

6)  Williams is allowed to dribble WWWAAAYY too much.

 

Games like this are exactly why fans will never fully embrace Tom Crean.  That was a coaching loss.  100%.  It's the post season, Tommy, boy.   Harrison Niego and Ryan Burton do not need to play.  At all.   Crean got abused today.   Indiana is Indiana because of its post season success, yet Crean's teams lose before they should year after year after year, tournament after tournament.

[JSHoosier]

18 games is too small of a sample size LOL

This is a serious question, and not intending to draw out the "same old JS" crap, but what's his postseason record over his entire career without Wade and Zeller?

[Brass Cannon]

This is a serious question, and not intending to draw out the "same old JS" crap, but what's his postseason record over his entire career without Wade and Zeller?

1-8 I think for his IU days

[Feathery]

This is a serious question, and not intending to draw out the "same old JS" crap, but what's his postseason record over his entire career without Wade and Zeller?

At Marquette, without Wade, he was 3-6 in post season play. 2 of the wins came in the NIT. I didn't look at Marquettes conference tournament results.

[Brass Cannon]

At Marquette, without Wade, he was 3-6 in post season play. 2 of the wins came in the NIT. I didn't look at Marquettes conference tournament results.

Let's go ahead and call that 1-6.

[DChoosier]

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="256297" timestamp="1457734111"]This is a serious question, and not intending to draw out the "same old JS" crap, but what's his postseason record over his entire career without Wade and Zeller?[/quotte


Crean has plenty of faults but I never get the "what would a coaches record be
Without their best player" questions.

We ran the table in '87. What do think the post season record would have been
Without Alford?

We ran the table in '81. What do you think our record would have been without
Thomas?

Izzo is great. How good would MSU be without Valentine (we already know, they
were not great )

Etc etc etc

[Feathery]

Let's go ahead and call that 1-6.

Well it would be 1-3 if you got rid of the NIT games.

[Brass Cannon]

Well it would be 1-3 if you got rid of the NIT games.

So that means he's even 2-3 in NIT games. Pathetic