TOM CREAN FIRED

[Str8Hoosiers 2,972]

so Boogie Cousins goes to the Pelicans... Does that change AD's thoughts about going to LA? If so does that change Russ's thought process? And in turn factor into Donovan's plans?

Damn you Kentucky players!!!

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

so Boogie Cousins goes to the Pelicans... Does that change AD's thoughts about going to LA? If so does that change Russ's thought process? And in turn factor into Donovan's plans?

Damn you Kentucky players!!!

Maybe. Boogie said he wouldnt sign an extension with the team that traded for him. He is a FA after next season as well as Russell. Maybe those two join forces in LA? Who knows honestly. Things are gonna get interesting though. Im just happy as hell to be a Sixer fan right now. We get a pick swap with Sac Town. Our chances to get Fultz just went up.

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[bigrod 3,138]

My son and I rewatched the IU MICH game from last year where IU had the 28-0 run yesterday.  It reiterated for me how awful we r right now.  Yogi drew so many defenders when handling the ball that it just opened up everybody for easy buckets.  Tom really dropped the ball not getting a true replacement for Yogi.  Although Yogis are rare, at least a PG that demands help defense.   Big miss on Crean.

And there isn't one coming in next year either. Does anyone really see how we are going to improve next year? I mean, I know we are all extremely illogical to want him gone, but our biggest need is a PG, and he isn't recruiting one.

With the anticipated losses and the known players coming in, I don't see how next year gets any better. Unless, of course, someone can take all the talent we have and actually do something with it.


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[Hoosierfan2017 24,643]

10 minutes ago, bigrod said:

And there isn't one coming in next year either. Does anyone really see how we are going to improve next year? I mean, I know we are all extremely illogical to want him gone, but our biggest need is a PG, and he isn't recruiting one.

With the anticipated losses and the known players coming in, I don't see how next year gets any better. Unless, of course, someone can take all the talent we have and actually do something with it.


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What makes you say we're all illogical to want Crean gone? He hasn't performed up to expectations, and next season looks like it will be no different. He has 3 years left on his contract and he hasn't done anything this year to warrant an extension. Recruiting has been declining the past few years. All signs seem to point to firing Crean being the smart choice. Heck, NC State fired their coach for doing about the same as Crean has done here. If we have lower standards than even NC State then that's a big problem, imo. 

[BGleas 8,977]

It's pretty amazing that IU has gone 5 full recruiting cycles ('13-'17) without recruiting a point guard. 

[HoosierCoop 4,159]

1 minute ago, BGleas said:

It's pretty amazing that IU has gone 5 full recruiting cycles ('13-'17) without recruiting a point guard. 

The trend is "positionless" basketball...said no good coaches ever!

[Brass Cannon 25,376]

3 minutes ago, BGleas said:

It's pretty amazing that IU has gone 5 full recruiting cycles ('13-'17) without recruiting a point guard. 

We had Newkirk why would we need to recruit somebody. 

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

And Robert Johnson. And Juwan Morgan. And Thomas Bryant. All guys that are PGs

[BGleas 8,977]

2 minutes ago, HoosierCoop said:

The trend is "positionless" basketball...said no good coaches ever!

I don't have a problem with positionless basketball, but that's not really what IU is doing. What has plagued IU for the better part of three seasons (excluding the 2nd half of last year) is that we're a 3-guard lineup team masquerading as positionless basketball. 

Positionless basketball is typically a rim/protecting, rebounding big and a pg-ish type player surrounded by a bunch of long, athletic, multi-dimensional guys that can shoot, pass, defend, etc.. We trot out a line-up of three 6'2" guards and call that positionless. A positionless lineup would be something like RoJo-Troy Williams-Hartman-OG-Bryant. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 89,910]

42 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

And Robert Johnson. And Juwan Morgan. And Thomas Bryant. All guys that are PGs

And who knows how well MSB could perform as our PG if CTC only gave him a chance,

 

[bigrod 3,138]

What makes you say we're all illogical to want Crean gone? He hasn't performed up to expectations, and next season looks like it will be no different. He has 3 years left on his contract and he hasn't done anything this year to warrant an extension. Recruiting has been declining the past few years. All signs seem to point to firing Crean being the smart choice. Heck, NC State fired their coach for doing about the same as Crean has done here. If we have lower standards than even NC State then that's a big problem, imo. 

Sorry, that's my sarcasm. The talking heads say we are just crazy fans who don't understand what a great coach we have.


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[Hoosierfan2017 24,643]

12 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Sorry, that's my sarcasm. The talking heads say we are just crazy fans who don't understand what a great coach we have.


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Ohh hahaha my bad man! With the talking heads spewing that crap it's hard to tell when someone's joking and when someone actually believes we're crazy for wanting him gone. 

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

55 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

And who knows how well MSB could perform as our PG if CTC only gave him a chance,

 

One never knows. Especially Tom Crean

[Hovadipo 61,309]

Parrish and Norlander had a pretty extensive conversation on Friday's podcast about Crean and why NC State (or leaving IU in general) would be a smart move for him.

They made a really good point in that the "damage" is done with the fanbase. There really isn't any coming back from this, it's only going to become an uglier and uglier divorce.


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[Brass Cannon 25,376]

2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Parrish and Norlander had a pretty extensive conversation on Friday's podcast about Crean and why NC State (or leaving IU in general) would be a smart move for him.

They made a really good point in that the "damage" is done with the fanbase. There really isn't any coming back from this, it's only going to become an uglier and uglier divorce.


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Good point anything short of a NC and nobody is going to change their mind. 

[schoosier 3,733]

2 hours ago, BGleas said:

It's pretty amazing that IU has gone 5 full recruiting cycles ('13-'17) without recruiting a point guard. 

Also, our last Indiana Mr. Basketball was 2011. Maybe Crean meant closing the border was his own ability to whiff in IN.

[JSHoosier 22,197]

7 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Also, our last Indiana Mr. Basketball was 2011. Maybe Crean meant closing the border was his own ability to whiff in IN.

Well, he never said what he meant by locking down the borders so he could say he meant he was going to lock down the borders so he'd struggle to recruit players in his own backyard.

See what happens when we assume?

[AZ Hoosier 10,708]

3 hours ago, bigrod said:

Sorry, that's my sarcasm. The talking heads say we are just crazy fans who don't understand what a great coach we have.


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I have to admit... I'm guilty. I have NO FREAKING CLUE what Crean is doing...

[Adillac 1,009]

I think IU is gonna go after Archie. Gut feeling. I'd love it to be Stevens, Donovan, Marshall, Bennett- in that order..but something tells me those guys are just fine where they are. 

[HoosierinNC 24]

Does anyone here really think Mizzo or another decent program is going to want to pay what CTC wants?