TOM CREAN FIRED

[Aaron 4,265]

I for one am as anti Alford as it gets and would be my last choice among available candidates. With that said if it's Alford or Crean I choose Alford. Anyone else or Alford I choose the other person (besides Sampson of course). 

Keeping Crean is literally the only way I will probably not renew my season tickets (I have standard season tickets and make no donations so I have no power to influence) although I would still watch and buy a few games cheap from secondary market.  

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[Magnanimous 4,488]

5 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Any business person can see how incompetent of a decision this was by Fred Glass. Instead of making money he chose to spend thousands while achieving the one thing he sought to avoid - embarrassment.  Safe to say his decision backfired. 

How about the Flutie Effect and the IU higher-ups (McRobbie) not pushing for athletics to be an integral part of the student experience.

"Winning the national championship results in an average 7%-8% increase in applications. In order to achieve the same results by decreasing tuition or increasing financial aid, the Popes found you'd need anywhere from a 2%-24% adjustment."

[Uwe Robb 1,072]

Hate to say it, but definitely agree with Dakich saying Myles Brand had a huge sack.

 

If Glass had half the Sack Brand did Crean might not have made it to the BTT.

[ap2345 7,571]

I'll be honest Indiana could hire Stevens, Donovan, Bennett, Miller, Miller, Marshall, Collins, Alford, Few, Holtmann, White, Vogel, Fife, Keats, Nored and others I'm just ready to get rid of Crean. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Hate to say it, but definitely agree with Dakich saying Myles Brand had a huge sack.

 

If Glass had half the Sack Brand did Crean might not have made it to the BTT.

Saying crean needs to stay and brand had a huge sack on the same podcast is the best troll job ever. Going to piss off every single Indiana fan imaginable with that.

 

 

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[ap2345 7,571]

I personally am starting to think that if we don't get Stevens, Donovan, Bennett or either Miller I do want Alford as the coach. Indiana has tried to go away from hiring Indiana guys and it hasn't worked.

[Aaron 4,265]

10 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

How about the Flutie Effect and the IU higher-ups (McRobbie) not pushing for athletics to be an integral part of the student experience.

"Winning the national championship results in an average 7%-8% increase in applications. In order to achieve the same results by decreasing tuition or increasing financial aid, the Popes found you'd need anywhere from a 2%-24% adjustment."

McRobbie can be pushed out as well for not caring about athletics enough. I know for a fact former president Bobby Fong at Butler was either pushed out or resigned because he wanted to de-emphasize athletics even after Butler's run to the championship games. Needless to say that didn't go well and Fong left to take a job at a small D3 school with no athletics. My point is when your IU, athletics will never be devalued when push comes to shove no matter who the president is as Butler showed us a few years ago. Now how good the teams will be I have no Idea but 0% chance athletics is de-emphasized.    

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[piratehoosier 68]

 

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[sirhoosierlot 2,658]

13 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

 

The NIT actually kicks a little money to the road teams and takes a decent chunk of the home team's revenue I think. I read that somewhere.

 

We were still technically the home team last night though right? 

[Hoosierfan2017 20,912]

5 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

How about the Flutie Effect and the IU higher-ups (McRobbie) not pushing for athletics to be an integral part of the student experience.

"Winning the national championship results in an average 7%-8% increase in applications. In order to achieve the same results by decreasing tuition or increasing financial aid, the Popes found you'd need anywhere from a 2%-24% adjustment."

It doesn't make any sense to me. He can't use the "we're an academic school so that's what we're focused on, athletics come second" reason because plenty of fine academic schools also have great athletics. Athletics are the best marketing tool a school has. Duke is a great institution but the average guy walking down the street knows about it because of its basketball program. Without it, they're just another school. 

[Aaron 4,265]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It doesn't make any sense to me. He can't use the "we're an academic school so that's what we're focused on, athletics come second" reason because plenty of fine academic schools also have great athletics. Athletics are the best marketing tool a school has. Duke is a great institution but the average guy walking down the street knows about it because of its basketball program. Without it, they're just another school. 

As I said read what I wrote about Butler on the previous page and you will see their is 0% of IU deemphasizing athletics.

Edited March 15, 2017 by Aaron

[Stromboli 6,076]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It doesn't make any sense to me. He can't use the "we're an academic school so that's what we're focused on, athletics come second" reason because plenty of fine academic schools also have great athletics. Athletics are the best marketing tool a school has. Duke is a great institution but the average guy walking down the street knows about it because of its basketball program. Without it, they're just another school. 

Right.  And we're paying the basketball coach over $3 million a year.  So obviously it's not that we don't value athletics.  We do.  We're just not getting a return that matches our investment.

 

[jman301 26]

Is it more likely if they wait longer that he stays or gets fired?


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[Dalton26 16,892]

Just now, jman301 said:

Is it more likely if they wait longer that he stays or gets fired?


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I dont think it favors either because that makes me think that a decision still hasnt been made.

[TrueHoosier62 1,592]

4 minutes ago, Uwe Robb said:

Hate to say it, but definitely agree with Dakich saying Myles Brand had a huge sack.

 

If Glass had half the Sack Brand did Crean might not have made it to the BTT.

Saying someone has a huge sack is only relevant if what they used it for was a just cause. Otherwise, they're only trying to make a name for themselves. When I heard Bob Knight's comments the other day, about hoping everyone associated with the University who was a party to his dissmissal "was dead", Miles Brand immediately came to mind. Karma was certainly at play there.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,912]

2 minutes ago, Aaron said:

As I said read what I wrote about Butler on the previous page and you will see their is 0% of IU deemphasizing athletics.

There might not be any deemphasizing athletics but we sure aren't getting our money's worth. We pay our coach a top-ten salary and give him the highest recruiting budget in the conference and this is what we get out of it. We spend all this money and we've been the 5th or 6th best program in our own conference. Maybe deemphasizing isn't the right word, but we've been doing something wrong. 

[ap2345 7,571]

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't true.

[P92 120]

I suspect the delay is due to Glass waiting till this thread gets to 1000 pages.

 

[Trish 11,505]

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't true.

Quinn Buckner getting our emails 🏽🏽🏽


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[Stromboli 6,076]

I'm done with rumors.