TOM CREAN FIRED

[Milldawg12]

Some of these names, yeesh.  If that's what we had to choose from we'd be just as well off keeping the clown we already have.

Dana Altman, really?  The guy is Tom Crean 2.0, coaching for 30 years and his record is very unimpressive, with a slightly better but still crappy defense usually.

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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[Stuhoo]

WHOA NELLY...Alex McCarthy; very recently departed IUBB reporter with a scathing Twitter exchange. McCarthy's tweets are in red:

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Crean on postgame radio: "They're crushed. My number one job is to be their cheerleader." #iubb

 

CrimsonCast ‏@CrimsonCast  10h10 hours ago

 @akmccarthy Tell us how you really feel, Alex!

 Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @CrimsonCast I'm sorry, but he really needs to think more before he says some of these things

 Tilly In Bloomington ‏@BigLiciousT  10h10 hours ago

 @akmccarthy @CrimsonCast By some you mean most, and by most you mean all.

 Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @BigLiciousT @CrimsonCast So many things. Most of the things

 Tilly In Bloomington ‏@BigLiciousT  10h10 hours ago

 @akmccarthy I mean, you're allowed to speak freely now, right????

 Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @BigLiciousT Very much so. And I'd say maybe 70 percent of the things he says make me wonder what the hell is going on up there

 

Nathan BrownV
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@akmccarthy I'm already liking the "opinionated because he doesn't cover IU anymore" Alex

 

Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @TDSnathanbrown This Alex has been a long time coming
 

 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Milldawg12 said:

 

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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Bryce Drew is by far the preferred Drew. 

After the Hanner deportation debacle, I have a very hard time believing that we will consider anyone in the Drew family.

 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

 

Bryce Drew is by far the preferred Drew. 

After the Hanner deportation debacle, I have a very hard time believing that we will consider anyone in the Drew family.

 

I don't want us to go near anyone involved with Baylor athletics. I have a hard time believing all of the issues on the football team are limited to just the football team...


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[SlamaJamaSisley]

21 hours ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

 

See the problem with your sarcasm is sweet sixteen to most schools is great. It means your a top 16 school. So you argue Crean isn't top 75 then say he will be in the sweet sixteen elsewhere. Top 40 coach as I said. Is someone who makes the tourney 6-7 years out of 10 and makes a run of a game or two every now and then. Not like I said he was awesome and the best coach ever lol. The problem is IU is above that so yes I still want Crean gone like most but let's not act like he is gonna be coaching jv in high school.

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I do believe expectations at IU are high compared to most other schools, and they should be.  As Crean said when he was hired "THIS IS INDIANA!" (and all the rest) so when a coach signs his name on the contract to coach at IT, he (or she?) should know the passionate fan base will have very high expectations and expect to win consistently and advance deeply in the tournament every year.  Are they unrealistic expectations?  Depends on who you talk to but I am not a believer of dropping standard of the program just because of parity in college basketball.  I don't remember arguing that Crean was any ranking so not sure where that came from.  Must be mistaking me for another poster.  

[Trish]

8 minutes ago, Milldawg12 said:

 

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/sports/ncaabasketball/14baylor.html

 

No thanks..

[MoyeNeeded]

Look, I want to be like Duke, Kensucky, Kansas. I want us to be feared again! No balls, no blue chips! Offer up the cash and go after a proven impact coach. Stevens isn't going to leave with what Boston is doing. Donovan is the one I would go after. OKC is not what he thought he was getting. Want to make a splash, then make a big one. The fan base would go nuts and the rest of the CBB world would be talking about Indiana!!

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[HoosierMatty]

I have heard shady things about the Drews. I don't want to deal with that kind of baggage.

[JSHoosier]

45 minutes ago, Milldawg12 said:

 

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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In 30 years he's been past the 2nd round a resounding twice.  Since KenPom has been keeping data his average AdjD is in the mid 70s which is not championship caliber.  Altman should be a very very hard pass.

[VO5]

You guys know if Alex is thinking those things, so is every other reporter. Bozich, Miller, etc. I'd really love to hear Fisch's thoughts on him, unfiltered. Can only hope Glass sees what everyone else does. I'm ready for this joke of a coach to be gone yesterday.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Welcome new posters! This thread is very popular this season for good reason. This thread has some history as well. Every day I hope it becomes "Fired Tom Crean".

Then my worrisome personality transitions to the hope that we don't blow another coaching hire.


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[Toothdr]

I hope it becomes Donovan new coach at Indiana University. Rest of NCAA ........be on alert........IU basketball is Back!!!!!!!


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[Trish]

We need to start a betting pool on the date he will be fired.

 

I'm thinking March 14th. 

[OliviaPope40]

10 hours ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

If your adding dream guys thay would even answer the phone i dont like that list at all.

1. Stevens
2. Billy D
3. Jay Wright
4. Tony Bennett
5. Scott Drew
6. Archie Miller
7. Chris Mack
8. Greg Marshall
9. Dana Altman
10. Mike White
11. Fred Hoiberg
12. Holtsmann
13. Andy Enfield
14. Chris Collins
15. Chris Beard
16. Steve Alford
17. Mick Cronin
18. Leonard Hamilton
19. Ronald Nored
20. Dane Fife


There is my top 20 and we surely could get 75 percent of those guys so hopefully our next coach is ready.

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Nored was my favorite Butler player that kid could play and he played hard so hard that he chipped a tooth in a game.

[Brass Cannon]

A nurse told me the result of the game last night and as I said "I can't wait for Crean to be fired" my daughter squeezed my hand. The next generation is already over the guy.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I went back and looked at this threads beginning.

Proud of my responses. Instincts were mostly correct.

Some people were pretty well wrapped around Crean's finger. Lol


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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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People seem to forget that. They compare their jobs to Indiana which if that was the case the wouldn't be candidates. It is guys wanting to go to a bigger school so they can get better talent with better results. It is quite simple. I like Altman and Scott Drew I put Scott Drew in my top 5 wish list and I would add Mark Few to mine as well. Completely forgot him. Altman has done an amazing job turning Oregon into a solid program. They have to compete against better teams in their area as well. UK doesn't count for us as they never recruit around us. U of L maybe. MSU and UM along with OSU is our hardest ones. Altman has Zona & UCLA. That alone is harder. I wouldn't put him at the top but there is a reason he always seems to have a big guy averaging 2 blocks a game at least. Sometimes 2. I would take him as a top 10 option very easily. Still would take 7-8 guys before him.

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[HoosierSadaseci]

Seriously, there is no way Tom Crean survives this debacle...Right? 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Nored was my favorite Butler player that kid could play and he played hard so hard that he chipped a tooth in a game.

Honestly I like him as a candidate but be don't have the name recognition quite yet. Him & Beard are my my guys I expect to be big time coaches around the country in a few years once the right job is presented.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I do believe expectations at IU are high compared to most other schools, and they should be.  As Crean said when he was hired "THIS IS INDIANA!" (and all the rest) so when a coach signs his name on the contract to coach at IT, he (or she?) should know the passionate fan base will have very high expectations and expect to win consistently and advance deeply in the tournament every year.  Are they unrealistic expectations?  Depends on who you talk to but I am not a believer of dropping standard of the program just because of parity in college basketball.  I don't remember arguing that Crean was any ranking so not sure where that came from.  Must be mistaking me for another poster.  

It was in reply to saying he wasnt a top 75 coach. Could have gotten wrong guy. Yes I do not like Crean here anymore but he will be a good coach somewhere witj lower expectations. In his defense if they offer the job why would he say no at that point. It was him or Brownell and Im glad we got Crean. It just shouldn't have lasted as long as it did.

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