College Football Thread

[Pagoda]

Woah.  The backlash may intensify.

 

[Stuhoo]

44 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

https://www.on3.com/news/georgia-nebraska-coaches-told-to-not-schedule-texas-tech-following-brendan-sorsby-eligibility-ruling/

When an SEC school says you’re too slimy to even play against?!!?

[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

When an SEC school says you’re too slimy to even play against?!!?

 

[Hovadipo]

Bullying is about to work, folks. Just give it some time. 

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Bullying is about to work, folks. Just give it some time. 

I don't know if I would call it bullying per se.  Honestly, not sure what word I would use. Protesting? 

 

Regardless, I think this approach will have legs.

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I don't know if I would call it bullying per se.  Honestly, not sure what word I would use. Protesting? 

 

Regardless, I think this approach will have legs.

[Hovadipo]

18 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I don't know if I would call it bullying per se.  Honestly, not sure what word I would use. Protesting? 

 

Regardless, I think this approach will have legs.

A bunch of people are ganging up together and saying “we aren’t playing with you anymore”.

My 5 and 7 year old call that bullying. And it’s going to work. 

[Brass Cannon]

25 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

A bunch of people are ganging up together and saying “we aren’t playing with you anymore”.

My 5 and 7 year old call that bullying. And it’s going to work. 

What can Tech do?  Just agree to not play him? 

[Lebowski]

29 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

A bunch of people are ganging up together and saying “we aren’t playing with you anymore”.

My 5 and 7 year old call that bullying. And it’s going to work. 

A bunch of people are targeting an organization based on their role/policy.  My old ars calls that protesting. And I think it’s going to work. Lololol 

[IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy]

6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

What can Tech do?  Just agree to not play him? 

Texas Tech won the Big XII last season, and they got more than enough talent this year alone to win again.

The whole point wasn't to play him, but to stick it to the NCAA.  A lot of these guys are never going to make it to the NFL, so they want to milk as much NIL as possible.  And unfortunately, now we're at that point where we must ask "Okay, how long are you going to actually stick around in college, because you can't spend your entire life playing college football".

Not playing him would probably make some amends, but I think we've crossed that proverbial Rubicon at this point.

[Magnanimous]

“All I'm saying is that you could have robbed banks, sold dope or stole your grandmother's pension checks and none of us would have minded. But shaving points off of a football game, man that's un-American.” - The Longest Yard

[BtownStrength]

Lets all think of the positive. Sure, it seems like the collapse of a beloved sport. But there happens to be top DL in the nation that is committed to a team that is currently in a swirl of controversy. Any drama around Tech certainly could not hurt our chances at landing Mr. Brewster 

[skhoosier2]

So bad for the sport on so many levels but not at all unexpected that he got an injunction.  If they allow him to play, the betting with only get worse and the outcomes of the games will be in question.  If they don't, he will likely sue again and win.  It's a catch 22.  Betting is an addiction.  The kid needs help for sure.  If Cincy knew and did nothing, they are definitely a part of the problem.  Tech clearly did not know when they signed him.  If you cared about the kid at all (UC), you would have sat him and got him some help.  Tech wants to win.  They see him as their best path so of course they are going to push to play him at all costs.  They can win the B12 no problem without him but the playoffs...they will need a capable qb and their young backup is likely not enough to get them to where they think they can go.  The next several weeks will be very interesting with the pressure to see what TTU decides to do.

[Pagoda]

I don't know, I'd say this was pretty unexpected.  The sports world is shocked given the precedent penalties, like cases of tiny bets sometimes not even on CFB resulting in player bans.  The betting markets had this priced as a ~90%+ chance he would be ineligible.

Betting can be an addiction.  But two thoughts with this situation:
1) Addiction does not exempt someone from penalties and consequences.  Nor does treatment involve playing CFB.  I really don't understand what the judge was thinking.

2) I can't know for sure, but I'm not buying this "addiction."  His behavior looks a lot like someone who enjoys gambling.  $90K bet across 2,900 wagers is $31 per bet.  And he did this over four years.  He's probably +/- $10-20K over four years, which is not crazy, especially for all the money he's made playing CFB.  He's not destroying his finances or spiraling.  I've got friends who bet that much. 

Gambling shifts from a bad habit to a serious problem when the amounts bet get very large, the person inevitably chases losses and loses big money, and their financial and personal life spiral as a result.  No one saw anything like this with Brendan.  Treating what Brendan did as an "addiction" that was miraculously cured in a 35 day rehab program makes a mockery of people with serious gambling addition problems that need to work on it a day at time for the rest of their lives.  I find it annoying and I'm not ready to sympathize with what I think is most likely an addiction manufactured for his eligibility defense.

I dunno, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  I think everyone can see this one stinks to high heaven.  

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Pagoda said:

I don't know, I'd say this was pretty unexpected.  The sports world is shocked given the precedent penalties, like cases of tiny bets sometimes not even on CFB resulting in player bans.  The betting markets had this priced as a ~90%+ chance he would be ineligible.

Betting can be an addiction.  But two thoughts with this situation:
1) Addiction does not exempt someone from penalties and consequences.  Nor does treatment involve playing CFB.  I really don't understand what the judge was thinking.

2) I can't know for sure, but I'm not buying this "addiction."  His behavior looks a lot like someone who enjoys gambling.  $90K bet across 2,900 wagers is $30 per bet.  And he did this over three years.  He's probably +/- $10-20K over three years, and he's a millionaire.  He's not destroying his finances or spiraling.  I've got friends who bet that much. 

Gambling shifts from a bad habit to a serious problem when the amounts bet get very large, the person inevitably chases losses and loses big money, and their financial and personal life spirals as a result.  No one saw anything like this with Brendan.  Treating what Brendan did as an "addiction" that was miraculously cured in a 35 day rehab program makes a mockery of people with serious gambling addition problems that need to work on it a day at time for the rest of their lives.  I find it annoying and I'm not ready to sympathize with what I think is most likely an addiction manufactured for his eligibility defense.

I dunno, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  I think everyone can see this one stinks to high heaven.  

Calling it an addiction does not legally absolve anyone from consequences. Jeffrey Dahmer was addicted to murder and cannabalism. 

I'm calling it - Sorsby doesn't play college football ever again. There seems to be a unified tsunami that will overwhelm the legal authority that would technically allow him to play.

[Stuhoo]

Submitted for your pot-stirrage enjoyment; I give you the Texas Tech message board:

https://247sports.com/college/texas-tech/board/102951/contents/congratulations-on-sorsby-court-victtory-over-ncaa-287577164/?page=1

[jermhoosierfan]

43 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

So bad for the sport on so many levels but not at all unexpected that he got an injunction.  If they allow him to play, the betting with only get worse and the outcomes of the games will be in question.  If they don't, he will likely sue again and win.  It's a catch 22.  Betting is an addiction.  The kid needs help for sure.  If Cincy knew and did nothing, they are definitely a part of the problem.  Tech clearly did not know when they signed him.  If you cared about the kid at all (UC), you would have sat him and got him some help.  Tech wants to win.  They see him as their best path so of course they are going to push to play him at all costs.  They can win the B12 no problem without him but the playoffs...they will need a capable qb and their young backup is likely not enough to get them to where they think they can go.  The next several weeks will be very interesting with the pressure to see what TTU decides to do.

If the rumor when the story broke is true and Cincy is the one who leaked the info about his gambling, they effectively got the revenge they wanted from him leaving for TTU. I wonder if any backlash can come their way from knowing it and basically not doing anything about it till he left them.  

[Hovadipo]

Don’t forget, Sorsby was betting Connor Bazelak and Tayven Jackson unders! 

(Maybe he isn’t that bad of a gambler)

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Don’t forget, Sorsby was betting Connor Bazelak and Tayven Jackson unders! 

(Maybe he isn’t that bad of a gambler)

He must of had an insider during practice or something. 

[AKHoosier]

This is such a losing battle for Texas Tech. Absolutely no one outside of Lubbock is on their side.

There's no amount of money Cody Campbell can spend on PR that will put people in their camp.

They'll probably have to go with the least bad option of paying him his NIL and revenue share, but just put him as QB3 on the depth chart.