(2018) PG Darius Garland to Vandy

[bigrod]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

A great class for sure. But lacking what the team needs. A star. 

Hunter may be a star. Who knows - any of these guys could blow up their senior season.

[Old Friend]

I am staggered by the few people on here who deny everything others say that isn't what they want to hear.   

One thing to consider; and I know some will think I'm nuts.  Others will get it.   Robert Phinisee is a point guard and he is ready to play at the college level.  He does not need to develop; he does not need time to learn how to play at the college level.  Perhaps Garland didn't want to split time or compete with another freshman point guard?    Is Garland more athletic?  Bigger?  Yep.  Would he have been a better fit than Phinisee?  That's not so easy.

As much as I want every great recruit we can get, losing Garland doesn't affect me in the least.  We got a kid we can lean on for 4 years; and he understands where he's going to school.  I truly hope every Indiana fan will now get behind who we DO have and not worry about who we don't.   Garland is going to a terrific academic institution.  Bryce Drew is a decent man and a good coach.  Wish him well.  Indiana is in good hands.  

[HoosierHoops1]

9 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Good question.

It shouldn't take 3 years at Indiana in today's day and age.

It looks like it's on pace for 3 year build though.

We'll just have to see how next year goes.


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It depends on what "rebuild" means. We could be pretty decent next year, depending on who our next 2018 is.

[Bailey7878]

If we get Romeo, no way it's a three year build. A team with Romeo, Junior De'Ron, and others should compete at a very high level.

Yes but I think we are the underdog for Romeo now.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

You can take Tyler Campbell off the list. Snow has reported in the past that IU staff wouldn’t get involved. He drove that point big time that IU staff is not interested in him in their program

 

 

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Good to know lol. Don't blame them. I was just naming some guys out there still. I'm sure some reclasses will happen as well.

[Baltimore Hoosier]

The cliff jumpers and cry babies can only blame themselves. I’ve seen poems, short stories, hell, even think I saw a limerick on why Indiana would end up with Garland and Langford. This is recruiting, not fantasy land. Archie did everything he could but it was too little, too late for IU in this case. I’d urge people to not make the same mistake with Langford.

[Me So Hornsby]

IN ARCHIE WE TRUST


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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Just now, Baltimore Hoosier said:

The cliff jumpers and cry babies can only blame themselves. I’ve seen poems, short stories, hell, even think I saw a limerick on why Indiana would end up with Garland and Langford. This is recruiting, not fantasy land. Archie did everything he could but it was too little, too late for IU in this case. I’d urge people to not make the same mistake with Langford.

I'd prefer that people continue to make the same mistakes they always have made. The highs and lows are much more entertaining!

[HinnyHoosier]

Quick derail.... I've unsubscribed from the DG thread but I keep getting notifications. Any way to fix that? I was happy not getting things done when I thought we had a snowball's chance lol


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[ElectricBoogaloo]

1 minute ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

The cliff jumpers and cry babies can only blame themselves. I’ve seen poems, short stories, hell, even think I saw a limerick on why Indiana would end up with Garland and Langford. This is recruiting, not fantasy land. Archie did everything he could but it was too little, too late for IU in this case. I’d urge people to not make the same mistake with Langford.

So, more limericks?

[HOOsier Thunder]

Just now, Capt. Crimson said:

If Archie can do what we think he can, the recruits will come. We've waited this long. Gotta have patience!


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That is where the disappointment lies today.  After the games this weekend and the miss on Garland, it is clear that extended patience will be required, as we are now looking at a methodical rebuild where we may not be anything more than a bubble team (if that) for the first 3-4 years (see Tony Bennett's trajectory at UVa, for example).  We have plenty of talent coming in next year, but a pair of top 10 players would have allowed us to bypass the foundation building and see some quick results.  Perhaps this will be better in the long run, but the process will likely be more painful than we had hoped.

[OliviaPope40]

In all honesty I wish him nothing but good luck. ESPN did what they always do and that's to make themselves look good and to try to get a bump in ratings. 

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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Just now, HinnyHoosier said:

Quick derail.... I've unsubscribed from the DG thread but I keep getting notifications. Any way to fix that? I was happy not getting things done when I thought we had a snowball's chance lol


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What if I told you... it's not over till Garland commits at 3:45 PM ET?

That's right, cliff jumpers, I'm saying there's a chance!

[Bowhunter]

I'm not mad at the guys getting info. I believe they were strung along. My problem is letting myself waist hours of my time day after day checking for the latest BS that keeps me hanging on to something my gut is telling me different.  My family deserves my time and I fell for the same thing that happened with the Billy Donovan saga. It won't happen again!

[Capt. Crimson]

Someone make a note to PM me if things with Romeo get interesting. I think I'm gonna focus on the season at hand for a while. It's been a fun ride y'all.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I am staggered by the few people on here who deny everything others say that isn't what they want to hear.   
One thing to consider; and I know some will think I'm nuts.  Others will get it.   Robert Phinisee is a point guard and he is ready to play at the college level.  He does not need to develop; he does not need time to learn how to play at the college level.  Perhaps Garland didn't want to split time or compete with another freshman point guard?    Is Garland more athletic?  Bigger?  Yep.  Would he have been a better fit than Phinisee?  That's not so easy.
As much as I want every great recruit we can get, losing Garland doesn't affect me in the least.  We got a kid we can lean on for 4 years; and he understands where he's going to school.  I truly hope every Indiana fan will now get behind who we DO have and not worry about who we don't.   Garland is going to a terrific academic institution.  Bryce Drew is a decent man and a good coach.  Wish him well.  Indiana is in good hands.  

Well said

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[mdn82]

The cliff jumpers and cry babies can only blame themselves. I’ve seen poems, short stories, hell, even think I saw a limerick on why Indiana would end up with Garland and Langford. This is recruiting, not fantasy land. Archie did everything he could but it was too little, too late for IU in this case. I’d urge people to not make the same mistake with Langford.

So don't follow the Langford recruitment either? Damn and I am hopeful too.


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[cleeter]

Darius didn't come here and he would have had a much bigger fan base and way more publicity here but instead did what his heart thought was right and stayed home to be with his family and friends. 

Now instead of crying over spilt milk, im going to continue to support who we have on our team and players that we know are coming in. Look forward to watching them grow as players and young men. We have a solid base and a great coaching staff and look forward to seeing this team rise. On to Seton Hall Wednesday. 

[Demo]

9 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

I was gonna say the same thing. Couple kids are still open out there. Ramey, maybe Tyger Campbell, Simons, maybe Shittu, grad guys, first semester transfers we will have more guys than 4 even if we dont get Romeo. These first 2 games have only solidified my opinions of that. We could see a few transfers not just one or 2 after this year. 

I've seen Ramey play at least a half dozen times. Forget his ranking. He is much closer to RP than Garland. 

[bigrod]

2 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

The cliff jumpers and cry babies can only blame themselves. I’ve seen poems, short stories, hell, even think I saw a limerick on why Indiana would end up with Garland and Langford. This is recruiting, not fantasy land. Archie did everything he could but it was too little, too late for IU in this case. I’d urge people to not make the same mistake with Langford.

Some people get emotionally invested. It is what it is. At the end of the day, not one person on this board accomplished or failed anything today due to Garland's decision. That's reality. I made a bad guess on what he was going to do. I guarantee you I won't lose sleep over it.

We will be fine. We are 2 games into what has been a tough season so far, but I have no doubt this program is in better shape than it's been in quite a while. The fact that Archie is in on any of these guys is pretty amazing. Let's all wait until we are 10-15 games into the season and see if we feel any better. The future is bright.