(2019) SF Keion Brooks Jr. to Kentucky

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Iugradman said:

The tweet is from the elder Brooks’ account.

 

Well that’s different.

[VO5]

That’s an odd tweet. Honestly, would make sense about any of the coaches recruiting Keion. Who knows.

[Brass Cannon]

8 minutes ago, VO5 said:

That’s an odd tweet. Honestly, would make sense about any of the coaches recruiting Keion. Who knows.

Be odd thing to say to your friend who has a great reputation for developing NBA talent. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Calipari ripped Herro a new one on TV during the game. There are a million explanations for that tweet.


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[Alford Bailey]

Everybody jumping back on Keion to IU bandwagon yet?

[HoosierAloha]

While watching puke at Tenn., I thought about how highly regarded Nick Richards was coming out of high school but hasn’t lived up to it at puke. There are a few others that haven’t developed and have been recruited over. If Keion ends up there I hope he shines for his year or two and is gone.


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[Old Friend]

Calipari is one of if not the best coaches in terms of getting kids ready to play at the next level.  Sometimes that takes a year; sometimes it takes 2 or 3, but he's great at it. If that's solely what a player wants in a college experience; that's where he should go.   

I don't believe it's Archie Miller's job at Indiana to take kids one year at a time and get them ready to play in the NBA, which for me opens up the same question : what's best for Indiana?   As many one and done's as we can get, or very few of them?   Seth Greenberg said - and I agree - it's hard to have just a single one and done kid because his agenda is different from the rest of the team.  As much as I wanted Romeo; that made a lot of sense.

Skill development isn't generally done during the season anyway.  Kids don't develop a left hand or become much better shooters in-season.  They can improve footwork, get stronger, etc. But skill development is generally done in the off season; so who knows what Keion's tweet was about?  Romeo has a great right hand.  He has a mediocre jump shot and a weak left hand.  It would be VERY difficult to fix those problems during one season at Indiana and it would be very hard to fix those problems in one season at Kentucky or anywhere else.

Calipari gets kids ready mentally and certainly from a conditioning perspective; but like most young players, UK kids take a year or two to develop in the NBA while they work on whatever skills they need to.

Point?  If Keion's tweet was directed at Archie, I think he's off base and wrong.  If Romeo were going to be at IU for 2-3 seasons and didn't develop skills; that's a different question, but Archie, like every coach in-season is trying to win games and spending far more time with team stuff and system things than he is individual development.

[Brass Cannon]

He does not get those kids ready. Most of them end up on the bench in the pros and every single one of them was NBA bound anyway

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, Iugradman said:

The tweet is from the elder Brooks’ account.

Good catch.  I didn't realize it when I saw the tweet and posted it.  It does cast an entirely different light on the nature of the tweet and who it's directed at.

[ctown2grhoosier]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

He does not get those kids ready. Most of them end up on the bench in the pros and every single one of them was NBA bound anyway

Seriously? Most of them on the bench? AD, Booker, KAT, Wall, etc. He is excellent at getting guys prepared for the NBA. If he wasn't top recruits wouldnt flock there every year. It would be hard to tell a kid to pass up an opportunity like that. Especially to go play for a coach who has never had a single player drafted in the NBA and hasn't help Romeo at all IMO.

[cchuntsman]

4 minutes ago, ctown2grhoosier said:

Seriously? Most of them on the bench? AD, Booker, KAT, Wall, etc. He is excellent at getting guys prepared for the NBA. If he wasn't top recruits wouldnt flock there every year. It would be hard to tell a kid to pass up an opportunity like that. Especially to go play for a coach who has never had a single player drafted in the NBA and hasn't help Romeo at all IMO.

Those players are already immensely talented and they end up there due to World Wide Wes/Nike. 

[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, ctown2grhoosier said:

Seriously? Most of them on the bench? AD, Booker, KAT, Wall, etc. He is excellent at getting guys prepared for the NBA. If he wasn't top recruits wouldnt flock there every year. It would be hard to tell a kid to pass up an opportunity like that. Especially to go play for a coach who has never had a single player drafted in the NBA and hasn't help Romeo at all IMO.

Lol so with like 30 plus guys in the NBA you cherry pick 4 or 5 as some proof. Like 4 years ago not a single Kentucky player was starting for a playoff team. 

[Old Friend]

7 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

He does not get those kids ready. Most of them end up on the bench in the pros and every single one of them was NBA bound anyway

He has 37 guys in the NBA since 2008; all but 5 of them 20 years of age or under.   13 top ten picks and 3 #1 overall.  Yeah, most may have gone anyway, but that's not really the point.    A kid who used to play for me was one of Calipari's managers for 3 years and told me all about the financial people and money managers he brings in to teach the kids; the nutritionists, the trainers; the holistic medical people; legal people...  There is a whole lot more to getting a kid ready than what happens on the floor.  Yeah...he does get them ready, and I mentioned mentally and conditioning specifically because I am well aware of the skill development that doesn't happen in college....which was the point of my post.  

[maharkn]

He does not get those kids ready. Most of them end up on the bench in the pros and every single one of them was NBA bound anyway

There is absolutely no player development at Kentucky. Same player goes in and same player comes out. (Except for a couple) going to Kentucky gets you on tv and in front of scouts and that is about it...... Well besides a little $$$$$$

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[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

He has 37 guys in the NBA since 2008; all but 5 of them 20 years of age or under.   13 top ten picks and 3 #1 overall.  Yeah, most may have gone anyway, but that's not really the point.    A kid who used to play for me was one of Calipari's managers for 3 years and told me all about the financial people and money managers he brings in to teach the kids; the nutritionists, the trainers; the wholistic medical people; legal people...  There is a whole lot more to getting a kid ready than what happens on the floor.  Yeah...he does get them ready, and I mentioned mentally and conditioning specifically because I am well aware of the skill development that doesn't happen in college....which was the point of my post.  

I’m sure these kids are ecstatic they were prepared to manage their body and finances for a long pro career that for the most of them isn’t occurring. 

[Bowhunter]

That’s why I said it was towards Archie because it was his Dad’s tweet not his.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

1 hour ago, ctown2grhoosier said:

Seriously? Most of them on the bench? AD, Booker, KAT, Wall, etc. He is excellent at getting guys prepared for the NBA. If he wasn't top recruits wouldnt flock there every year. It would be hard to tell a kid to pass up an opportunity like that. Especially to go play for a coach who has never had a single player drafted in the NBA and hasn't help Romeo at all IMO.

Aaron Harrison plays in Europe. Andrew Harrison plays in Europe. Dakari Johnson plays in China. Tyler Ulis was on a two-way contract before he was waived in December. Marcus Lee is in the g league. Isaiah Briscoe went undrafted and now plays 13.8 mpg on a lottery team. Alex Poythress is on a two-way contract. James Young was last in the G League. Archie Goodwin is in the g league. Kyle Wiltjer plays in Europe. Terrence Jones has played 1 minute in the past two seasons in the NBA. Doron Lamb plays in Europe. Marquis Teague plays in Korea. 

Thats not an exhaustive list of his players that never panned out. Those were just the McDonald's All-Americans. I don't even blame Calipari for that. No one is going to go 100%. Not even close. But, how much credit shoul Calipari really get for guys like Anthony Davis and John Wall? They could have played at U Indy or some other non-D1 school and still made the league. I won't blame Brooks if he decides to go to Kentucky, but the chances of him getting lost in the shuffle at UK is much higher, imo. 

[coonhounds]

Everybody jumping back on Keion to IU bandwagon yet?

Sign me on

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[JVIU98]

Someone said it was towards a fan from keions high school team that was mouthing about KBJ transferring. I don’t have any inside information, but that does make more sense than mouthing the college coaches mentioned. I doubt he has anything but respect for all of the coaches in his son’s recruitment or they wouldn’t be in his top 4-5.


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[KYHoosier]

I think some people’s opinion that Archie has hurt or not helped Romeo’s stock since he’s been at IU are dumbfounded. Romeo was projected as a top 5-10 pick before he even stepped foot on campus, and guess what... he’s still projected as a top 5-10 pick now. And let’s be honest he wasn’t going to jump any of the players projected to go in the top 3-5 so that’s a moot point. So to say Archie has hurt or hasn’t developed Romeo just isn’t accurate. I promise you if Keion doesn’t come to IU, Romeo’s development or lack there of (in some people’s opinion) will not be the reason why.

 

 

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