Potential fallout from coaching change

[IU Bud 445]

Yeah, but who's going to fire a college coach in July? Got to give it to Crean, he has some smart lawyers.

If a coach was wanting to get back into coaching right away, he would have more options in April than in July. I say we do what is best for the program. It is worth the cost if we get the person we want.

 

For a lifelong fan and 25+ year IU booster and member of the Alumni Association, this is the second year I can't wait for the season to end. It reminds me of the Mike Davis years.

[Hovadipo 56,178]

That's basically how I took it. If not, then Glass really screwed himself over on that one. Still, having the buyout drop in July gives Glass more leverage if they discuss a settlement beforehand.

Yeah I'm not too worried about whether it "can" happen. It's all about "will" it happen.

[djsalway 4,161]

Yeah I'm not too worried about whether it "can" happen. It's all about "will" it happen.

 

Agree with you 100%. The money can be found, up to Glass to pull the plug.

[hoosierinIll 335]

Is this a question? I have no inside info, it just seems like Yogi and CTC are pretty tight.

Sorry, I edited the original. My original post was not a question. A family member who works within the athletic department told me a week ago "Yogi is gone." I didn't ask any questions

[TomPritchard25 526]

Tommy Amaker is 49. He was a 3rd team All American guard at Duke, a burger boy and Parade All American out of high school, and NABC defensive player of the year at Duke, I believe he is in the Duke HOF, and was a Coach K assistant for 9 years, He has something that Crean lacks, college basketball playing experience, and at a very high level. Also was on the Duke coaching staff for two NC's and three other FF's.

Never took UM to the NCAA, but did win the NIT and had two other NIT appearances in 6 seasons. I think the lack of NCAA berths and not finishing above 5th in six seasons was the cause for his demise at UM. He took over at UM after the NCAA hammered the Wolverines basketball program for a multitude of violations dating back to the Fab Five (Chris Webber and gang).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Amaker

please do not ever boast a coach for his NIT accomplishments.

[CR3AMnCR1MS0N 1,867]

Sorry, I edited the original. My original post was not a question. A family member who works within the athletic department told me a week ago "Yogi is gone." I didn't ask any questions

I see now

[hoosierinIll 335]

I'm pretty sure the July thing is the start of a new year for the school rather than a savvy lawyer move. Someone please correct me if I'm off base.

Touché. That makes more sense.

[Josh 12,640]

I don't care who leaves/stays.  Crean needs to go.  Rip that bandaid off.

[hoosierpap 14,300]

DJ my quote function isn't working but I believe this is beyond what Glass thinks. I mentioned to some in PM's/mod forum that the word after the NW game was that the problems with Crean are coming from higher up. Without getting too specific, Glass is going to need to do what he needs to do because it's his job on the line at this point.

 

I mentioned the money/buyout issue a few times on here and it is not an issue. The money is there now and it was there when the extension was negotiated. Glass isn't as stupid as some are making him out to be on that extension. Having said that, I'm not sure it will come to that.

[HoosierSadaseci 2,258]

Worrying about roster turnover is no reason to keep a coach who can't coach.

[djsalway 4,161]

Sad thing is this roster is one decent rim protector away from being a top 4 B1G team this year and competing for the conference title next year. So much talent here, being wasted by poor recruiting/roster management.

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

Lets think if we get a new coach...

who stays and who goes...

 

JBJ- 50/50 

Zeisloft- 50/50

Hoetzel- transfer IMO but could be 50/50

Rojo- 50/50

Troy- gone

Yogi- Gone

Hanner- 50/50 IMO but could be gone

Devin Davis- back

Fuchs- back

Stan rob- gone

Holt- back IMO could be 50/50

Hartman- back

Priller- gone

April- gone

[8bucks 6,449]

DJ my quote function isn't working but I believe this is beyond what Glass thinks. I mentioned to some in PM's/mod forum that the word after the NW game was that the problems with Crean are coming from higher up. Without getting too specific, Glass is going to need to do what he needs to do because it's his job on the line at this point.

I mentioned the money/buyout issue a few times on here and it is not an issue. The money is there now and it was there when the extension was negotiated. Glass isn't as stupid as some are making him out to be on that extension. Having said that, I'm not sure it will come to that.

What do you mean with your last sentence? If the extension might not come into play does that mean he is still likely to retain Crean?

[Hoosier DaDa 2,454]

We all want to see this on the sidelines very soon!

[bnkepner 1,509]

Lets think if we get a new coach...

who stays and who goes...

 

JBJ- 50/50 

Zeisloft- 50/50

Hoetzel- transfer IMO but could be 50/50

Rojo- 50/50

Troy- gone

Yogi- Gone

Hanner- 50/50 IMO but could be gone

Devin Davis- back

Fuchs- back

Stan rob- gone

Holt- back IMO could be 50/50

Hartman- back

Priller- gone

April- gone

Anyone with dreams of going to the NBA in a season or two (ei JBJ and Troy) won't risk sitting out a year so they won't transfer. 
I still say if you bring in a big enough coach, players will stay. And with the money that we are paying Crean, we can get just about anybody

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

Anyone with dreams of going to the NBA in a season or two (ei JBJ and Troy) won't risk sitting out a year so they won't transfer. 
I still say if you bring in a big enough coach, players will stay. And with the money that we are paying Crean, we can get just about anybody

I agree JBJ will probably come back. Thats definitely better than 50/50. Troy however, I could definitely see going. The new coach also may not ask back certain players/players may not see eye to eye on new philosophies... I could see us bringing back (if we make the right hire) 

 

JBJ

RoJo

Hoetzel

Holt

Davis

Zeisloft

Parea

Fuchs

April

 

However, I also assume we may be saying good bye to OG and Morgan? Hoping the new coach could bring in some bigs or we will just go into next year with the same issues as this year minus Yogi and Troy

[bnkepner 1,509]

I agree JBJ will probably come back. Thats definitely better than 50/50. Troy however, I could definitely see going. The new coach also may not ask back certain players/players may not see eye to eye on new philosophies... I could see us bringing back (if we make the right hire) 

 

JBJ

RoJo

Hoetzel

Holt

Davis

Zeisloft

Parea

Fuchs

April

 

However, I also assume we may be saying good bye to OG and Morgan? Hoping the new coach could bring in some bigs or we will just go into next year with the same issues as this year minus Yogi and Troy

I think it all depends on who they bring in. Incoming recruits could want to play for someone if they know that 1) they will still get a lot of playing time and 2) that the team is going to be competitive. If we signed the right coach at the right time, we could still compete for some unsigned recruits for this upcoming season. Highly unlikely but it could happen if we get the right guy.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

Doyle has his thoughts here.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/03/04/doyel-tom-creans-fate-longer-tom-creans-hands/24370679/

[Hovadipo 56,178]

Dakich is talking a lot of IU today. He isn't exactly taking a Crean stance, but his overall point is "don't talk about it, be about it" when it comes to Indiana basketball. Also saying that the team is losing the fanbase due to lack of defense and effort.

[8bucks 6,449]

Dakich is talking a lot of IU today. He isn't exactly taking a Crean stance, but his overall point is "don't talk about it, be about it" when it comes to Indiana basketball. Also saying that the team is losing the fanbase due to lack of defense and effort.

Doubt he will say explicitly that Crean should go but he read a peegs post that he agreed with and that poster clearly wanted a change.

He also said Indiana is a top 5/6 program and 99% of coaches would want to come here