Stan and Troy

[Hoosier2014 289]

I'm gonna go ahead and start the fire...
Crean cost us this game...

Absolutely not. The reality of this game was that we had a slim chance of winning. Louisville is probably the worse matchup we will see this year in that they have endless quality bigs and fast guards. Our players ran out of gas in the second half and the result was 1-10 from 3. How is it Crean's fault that they didn't block out? I just don't see how anyone could blame this on cream and this is coming from a guy that blames him a lot!

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

Don't think either one took the leap I was hoping for this year. Oh well, I guess

You watch Victor Oladipo do it.... You see how he did it... Coaches tell you how he did it... Victor tells you how he did it....

They just don't want it. Not their HIGHest priority.

[sirhoosierlot 2,698]

According to the box score Troy only had 3 turnovers but he definitely had many more than that. His problem is that he tried to finish in traffic and he honestly can. He gets the ball and tries to take it the length of the court and throws up some crazy shot. Stan's problem is that besides driving the ball, he can't do much else. He can really handle the ball too well, he can't seem to finish at the rim, he can't shoot. Heck I haven't even been impressed by his D this year. Stan kind of seems to have Jeremy Hollowell syndrome. His body language just looks like he doesn't care that much. On a team filled with freshman we really need these two to step up and so far they haven't at all.

The biggest thing with Troy's turnovers for me, is they always seem to come at the worst possible time. We'll be on a run playing really well and together then he tries to throw a knock out and it kills all of our momentum.

[HoosiersLoveBanners 797]

Don't forget that CZ SHOULD still be on this team... Maybe NV also. Both players weren't physically (also maybe not refined enough) ready for the leap when they made it. I can't put it all on coach TC. He did the recruiting, players just didn't stay. You can throw LF in that mix also

[ou812dude 3,326]

Of course, no matter what happens , when we lose, he gets the blame. If we win , he never gets credit though. Its gotten old

who the hell gets this blame, *******?

 

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[coonhounds 8,809]

Troy would b so better playing team ball but he is out for himself it is painfully obvious stan also I think the others want to play team ball. Most of the team lacks the simple things that win game though fundamentals is everything and crean lacks getting them to do the little things to win games

[Hoosier2014 289]

Don't forget that CZ SHOULD still be on this team... Maybe NV also. Both players weren't physically (also maybe not refined enough) ready for the leap when they made it. I can't put it all on coach TC. He did the recruiting, players just didn't stay. You can throw LF in that mix also

Come on man. If you really think Zeller should still be here then pass me what you're smoking.

[Kyleweberiu 386]

Just don't pass it to Stan or Troy.

[HoosiersLoveBanners 797]

I love and root for CZ just as much as you guys but to think he is some great NBA guy is just not accurate. He is a role player at the NBA level no matter if he left at 2 or 4. Take off those rose colored glasses you wear

[ou812dude 3,326]

man...I've lost my cool tonight..

I'm gonna put myself in timeout...

 

I'm sorry for my cursing and outbursts...

 

I will come back when I get my stuff together...

[Uwe Robb 1,072]

The only thing that these two are good at is smoking dope and running their roomates out of town to Marquette.

[HoosiersLoveBanners 797]

He shouldve just stayed and got the minutes/experience like a Hansborough. Not saying he isn't better than him, because I think he is, but the situations are comparable

[Uwe Robb 1,072]

I love and root for CZ just as much as you guys but to think he is some great NBA guy is just not accurate. He is a role player at the NBA level no matter if he left at 2 or 4. Take off those rose colored glasses you wear

He is seeing around 20 min a game and literally making millions of dollars. So why is he still supposed to be at IU? If he were still here he would have 6 degrees. Hey maybe Stan could have him go to class for him??

[HoosiersLoveBanners 797]

Instead he plays 15-20 mins on the sucky Hornets behind ball hogging Walker, Stephenson and Jefferson.

[Uwe Robb 1,072]

Don't forget that CZ SHOULD still be on this team... Maybe NV also. Both players weren't physically (also maybe not refined enough) ready for the leap when they made it. I can't put it all on coach TC. He did the recruiting, players just didn't stay. You can throw LF in that mix also

Troy ran Luke out of town. He locked him out of his dorm room to smoke weed with his posse. Luke had a basketball stolen from his room that he was going to give his Grandpa at Christmas and that was the last straw. So Troy is hurting this team in more ways than people even know.

[Hovadipo 55,242]

Instead he plays 15-20 mins on the sucky Hornets behind ball hogging Walker, Stephenson and Jefferson.

He's actually averaging 25-30 and starting recently. So....?

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,054]

Troy ran Luke out of town. He locked him out of his dorm room to smoke weed with his posse. Luke had a basketball stolen from his room that he was going to give his Grandpa at Christmas and that was the last straw. So Troy is hurting this team in more ways than people even know.

finally we get the meat of this story. This adds up much, much better than "homesickness"

[bnkepner 1,509]

who the hell gets this blame, *******?

 

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No reason to curse at me. If you can't discuss a sport in a civil manner you have no reason to be here. Really uncalled for

[sddowning 146]

Troy is great when he catches the ball at the short corner and attacks the rim but instead he tries to attack and go coast to coast at the worst times. Stan just sucks this year. I don't understand his regression

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Troy has shown some improvement this year---but he needs to watch video of Harrell---how he picks his spots---and uses his athleticism for defense and rebounding too--not just for scoring. I am tired of that wild throw it up finger roll that has gone in once out of 5 or 6 times this year. It usually kills our momentum and leads to a fast break the other way.

 

Stan has not shown improvement---not meshing with the team yet.

 

We need them to either get it turned around soon---or see fewer minutes----reality is you have to produce.