College Bball Thread

[jermhoosierfan]

17 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1944836702595637648?s=46
Feast week always delivers 

 

Ok, stupid question, but I am actually wondering, three days, 16 teams, so how do they determine who is in the Championship game and third place game?  With 16 teams, it should take almost 4 or 5 days to do that in a bracket situation.  Do they (the powers that be) choose who played the best or by some rankings?  

[Demo]

Nolan Smith, who was K’s lead recruiter and then Penny’s, is apparently taking the Tennessee St HC gig, per Rothstein. 

[Uspshoosier]

1 hour ago, jermhoosierfan said:

Ok, stupid question, but I am actually wondering, three days, 16 teams, so how do they determine who is in the Championship game and third place game?  With 16 teams, it should take almost 4 or 5 days to do that in a bracket situation.  Do they (the powers that be) choose who played the best or by some rankings?  

They will go by overall record and then tiebreakers.   I’m guessing like they do for AAU events.  Treat the first 2 games like pool play games and then go by overall record and tiebreakers 

[jermhoosierfan]

27 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They will go by overall record and then tiebreakers.   I’m guessing like they do for AAU events.  Treat the first 2 games like pool play games and then go by overall record and tiebreakers 

LOL, yeah, I don't care for that, but it isn't my money they are getting.

[Pagoda]

A paradox with the Hysterics is despite their issues, Eric is a good interviewer.

This episode with Brian Snow is very insightful on modern CBB.  Brian as most know covered CBB recruiting, but he also worked on the PSU and ND staffs, so he has a ton of knowledge on what’s really happening in CBB right now, notably with NIL, rev share, recruiting, and behind the scenes with programs/players.  Plus the Haralson recruitment and how IU botched it.  He has some positives and concerns regarding IU too. 

Anyways, it’s a good listen if that interests you.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hoosier-hysterics-podcast/id1609450696?i=1000717508337

[WayneFleekHoosier]

49 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

A paradox with the Hysterics is despite their issues, Eric is a good interviewer.

This episode with Brian Snow is very insightful on modern CBB.  Brian as most know covered CBB recruiting, but he also worked on the PSU and ND staffs, so he has a ton of knowledge on what’s really happening in CBB right now, notably with NIL, rev share, recruiting, and behind the scenes with programs/players.  Plus the Haralson recruitment and how IU botched it.  He has some positives and concerns regarding IU too. 

Anyways, it’s a good listen if that interests you.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hoosier-hysterics-podcast/id1609450696?i=1000717508337

Its excellent.
 

I’m listening at lunch.  He clearly says our roster isn’t as good as Kentucky or Louisville last season so expecting us to have the seasons they had wouldn’t be fair.  Shares a lot of the concerns I’ve been discussing this summer.  Also really complements DeVries as a coach.  
 

Said he HATED someone on the IU staff from the last regime but wouldn’t name names.  Not Woodson.  Thought that was interesting.  My guess is YA but that’s just an blind guess. 

[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Its excellent.
 

I’m listening at lunch.  He clearly says our roster isn’t as good as Kentucky or Louisville last season so expecting us to have the seasons they had wouldn’t be fair.  Shares a lot of the concerns I’ve been discussing this summer.  Also really complements DeVries as a coach.  
 

Said he HATED someone on the IU staff from the last regime but wouldn’t name names.  Not Woodson.  Thought that was interesting.  My guess is YA but that’s just an blind guess. 

Louisville was projected to finish 8th in an already bad ACC in the preseason last year. I'm not sure what separates Louisville's roster last year from IU's roster this year? Louisville had a ton of really good mid-major guys and a few good, but not stellar P5 guys. I'm just not sure how Snow can draw that comparison yet?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Louisville was projected to finish 8th in an already bad ACC in the preseason last year. I'm not sure what separates Louisville's roster last year from IU's roster this year? Louisville had a ton of really good mid-major guys and a few good, but not stellar P5 guys. I'm just not sure how Snow can draw that comparison yet?

I listened to it. He said he loved Hepburn. He just said Hepburn wins. Also said the pieces came from winning programs unlike most of the pieces at IU.   He complimented our shooting.  Worries about the mid major jump.  
 

Yeah, I don’t necessarily see a huge difference either, but Hepburn and Winning guys was his separator.

[AH1971]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I listened to it. He said he loved Hepburn. He just said Hepburn wins. Also said the pieces came from winning programs unlike most of the pieces at IU.   He complimented our shooting.  Worries about the mid major jump.  
 

Yeah, I don’t necessarily see a huge difference either, but Hepburn and Winning guys was his separator.

We have a guy who was on last years title winning team. We have a guy who won Sun Belt POY last year and lead his team to the tournament (Louisville's best player last year was the reigning Sun Belt POY). Devries and Enright have been on some very good Drake teams. I fail to see the difference in my opinion. 

[str8baller]

On 7/16/2025 at 11:52 AM, Pagoda said:

A paradox with the Hysterics is despite their issues, Eric is a good interviewer.

This episode with Brian Snow is very insightful on modern CBB.  Brian as most know covered CBB recruiting, but he also worked on the PSU and ND staffs, so he has a ton of knowledge on what’s really happening in CBB right now, notably with NIL, rev share, recruiting, and behind the scenes with programs/players.  Plus the Haralson recruitment and how IU botched it.  He has some positives and concerns regarding IU too. 

Anyways, it’s a good listen if that interests you.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hoosier-hysterics-podcast/id1609450696?i=1000717508337

That was a pretty good listen. I don’t disagree with much of anything he said. I would quibble with him saying Lville brought in all winners and we’re not. Devries is a winner. So is Connerroy. Enright was under CDD. One of our two centers played real mins for the national champs.  I assume it was a shot at Wilkerson or Bailey but I dunno. 

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

That was a pretty good listen. I don’t disagree with much of anything he said. I would quibble with him saying Lville brought in all winners and we’re not. Devries is a winner. So is Connerroy. Enright was under CDD. One of our two centers played real mins for the national champs.  I assume it was a shot at Wilkerson or Bailey but I dunno. 

Two more things since I posted the last comment before I finished the last twenty mins or so:  

1) He does the hilarious coach thing where he pretends not to know what something is. In this case, it is “a coaches ceiling“. I don’t even know what that is, he says. Then five minutes later, he perfectly describes what he considers a coach’s ceiling when talking about a couple big 10 coaches. In this case, it was Buzz Williams and McCollum. Wtf dude????

 

2) I argued with a couple posters this spring  about how money will be allocated more like the pros where two or three players get the majority of your salary. Snow pretty much says that’s how it will be going forward. No more giving 8 players $1mil each. Top 2 or 3 guys will be getting 50% (or more, imo) of your salary pool.  
 

 

[Rico]

On 7/14/2025 at 1:45 PM, Demo said:

Per Rothstein, Greg McDermott says he’s going to coach 2-3 more years before handing it off to Alan Huss. I assumed when they made that move with Huss McDermott was doing 1 more year. 3 years would be a pretty long apprenticeship. 

I remember the 'Cuse doing this stuff.  How did that work out for the coach in waiting?  lol

[Demo]

https://www.basketunderreview.com/iu-indy-embraces-ben-howlett-and-the-system/
 

Nice little article on Ben Howlett bringing the Crutchfield system to D1. Will never get used to referring to the school as IU-Indy.

[Demo]

 

Happy for Ya. Always liked him and Woody screwed him pretty good. I’d take that job over LSU in a second.

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Demo said:

 

Happy for Ya. Always liked him and Woody screwed him pretty good. I’d take that job over LSU in a second.

Waaaaaait a second.

Ya was officially hired as an LSU assistant just three months ago. So something happened - something went wrong. Unless he had a special clause in his LSU contract that allowed him to immediately leave for Oregon (his alma mater). And I have no idea why LSU would sign him for that if there was a chance that Altman could immediately poach. This would be the equivalent of Kenny Johnson leaving IU this week to become an assistant at Maryland, his alma mater. If that happened I'd be more than a little suspicious (it won't happen).

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not sure that Ya was or wasn't a positive at IU, and I'm not sure this move after three months isn't a red flag.

Tell me why it's all okay! Having a ton of trouble with this.

[Hovadipo]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Waaaaaait a second.

Ya was officially hired as an LSU assistant just three months ago. So something happened - something went wrong. Unless he had a special clause in his LSU contract that allowed him to immediately leave for Oregon (his alma mater). And I have no idea why LSU would sign him for that if there was a chance that Altman could immediately poach. This would be the equivalent of Kenny Johnson leaving IU this week to become an assistant at Maryland, his alma mater. If that happened I'd be more than a little suspicious (it won't happen).

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not sure that Ya was or wasn't a positive at IU, and I'm not sure this move after three months isn't a red flag.

Tell me why it's all okay! Having a ton of trouble with this.

The reason why it’s all okay is because he (and everyone else on that godforsaken staff) isn’t our problem anymore. 

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

The reason why it’s all okay is because he (and everyone else on that godforsaken staff) isn’t our problem anymore. 

It's hard to confirm that anyone on the former staff wasn't part of the problem. Maybe Jordy, who is new to the industry. Surely others, but who really knows.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It's hard to confirm that anyone on the former staff wasn't part of the problem. Maybe Jordy, who is new to the industry.

Staff was clearly not on the same page.  Ya can really recruit.  I think he’s got good ball instincts too.  Solid, solid pick up for Oregon in my opinion but time will tell.  Curious how Altman and him will vibe.  

[Hovadipo]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It's hard to confirm that anyone on the former staff wasn't part of the problem. Maybe Jordy, who is new to the industry. Surely others, but who really knows.

Even our most beloved Jordy is guilty by association. Those guys stunk. 

(I could be talking about the past IUBB staff AND Assembly Ball TBT team here)

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Staff was clearly not on the same page.  Ya can really recruit.  I think he’s got good ball instincts too.  Solid, solid pick up for Oregon in my opinion but time will tell.  Curious how Altman and him will vibe.  

You and me are switching 'cynic/optimist' profiles on this one, Doc.

For me? Ya was a good recruiter when quietly delivering a bag was a method toward good recruiting. Now? the market determines pay and Ya seems to have delivered more than a couple of guys who were at IU primarily to collect a paycheck; not to contribute to a team and become part of a university.