Joe DeLow Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Again, it's not just about a title, it's about being in position for a title run, regularly, and some breaks along the way. 75 in position with an injured player, 76 title, 81 title, 84 elite 8, 87 title, 92 final 4, 93 #1 team with injury, Patterson, Miller etc group was next in line but failed, 02 final game with mostly Knights roster, then lost focus, then lost culture. So then he stopped in the mid 90’s? Because it isn’t like Indiana was great once Cheaney and co left. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Joe DeLow Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 The best of the best....what? Players? Team mates? Athletes? Shooters? You cannot win by stockpiling talent unless that's what you do every season. That's not Indiana's culture. The best basketball players are generally the best team mates. Not necessarily the best athletes. If you want the best, most coachable players able to develop, Indiana is well served by staying close to home because there are more than enough kids around here who DO know what Indiana basketball is. Who gives a sh*t how old they are or what they can remember? None of them remember the last time Michigan State won a title, either. (using your words) Above, someone said "get old, stay old." That's the formula for consistency and if you think Indiana can just wave a wand and begin their new "Like Kentucky" culture, you're nuts.Indiana’s culture? Is that being mediocre? Because that’s what we have been for 25 years. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Iugradman 1 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: So then he stopped in the mid 90’s? Because it isn’t like Indiana was great once Cheaney and co left. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app 1 group missed 96ish, but it carried on 2 years after he left, with a run with his players. It was as hard to get the culture out of Knights players, as it is to get it into Creans. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Horton-Tucker is hiring an agent and entering the draft. He played at Iowa St Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners IUsafety and ElectricBoogaloo 2 Quote
8bucks Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 So then he stopped in the mid 90’s? Because it isn’t like Indiana was great once Cheaney and co left. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appHe actually did change with the Charlie Miller, Neill Reed, Andre Patterson class. Dakich mentioned this awhile back. With that class the assistants had been encouraging him to expand recruiting nationally and he had been resistant. If I remember correctly his reluctance had more to do with his desire not to have to travel far to recruit. That class was a far more national class than what he traditionally had and they had success but they did miss the FF. I think that had more to do with RMK than the approach but I think regional kids knew more about what to expect than the national kids did. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
ElectricBoogaloo Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Horton-Tucker is hiring an agent and entering the draft. He played at Iowa St Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Damn! I knew he was good but I didn't think he was draft worthy yet. Quote
wirenuts Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Bailey7878 said: Amazing what a stud coach can do. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk He could be the greatest coach alive but no way he accomplishes anything without the whole team buying into the system he is running pumpfake 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 He could be the greatest coach alive but no way he accomplishes anything without the whole team buying into the system he is runningIt helps that his team is “old” too. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app wirenuts and Hillsdale87 2 Quote
Hoosier1984 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Kentucky offered Calipari a lifetime contract today. UCLA has offered 6 years 48 million. About 2 million less per year than his Kentucky salary and a lot more costly in LA to live. They need to raise that a little bit and maybe he will just take the bait.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Hillsdale87 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 He actually did change with the Charlie Miller, Neill Reed, Andre Patterson class. Dakich mentioned this awhile back. With that class the assistants had been encouraging him to expand recruiting nationally and he had been resistant. If I remember correctly his reluctance had more to do with his desire not to have to travel far to recruit. That class was a far more national class than what he traditionally had and they had success but they did miss the FF. I think that had more to do with RMK than the approach but I think regional kids knew more about what to expect than the national kids did. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI'm still waiting for Charlie Miller to reach his potential. I was 9 or 10 and kept thinking he was going to be awesome. He teased just enough to be extremely disappointing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Class of '66 Old Fart and 8bucks 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe DeLow said: Indiana’s culture? Is that being mediocre? Because that’s what we have been for 25 years. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app This is the "College Basketball" thread, not the "Why I think IU is a Crappy Program" thread. Quoted Directly From the Forum Guidelines: Thread Derailment – This rule is about not posting in threads that have nothing to do with the topic, intended to take away from the point of the thread. If a thread is about IU Basketball, do not turn it into a crying match about your favorite baseball team. It’s simple to follow, so keep threads on point! So, please let this be an official, public notice that thread derailing will not be permitted. And those who give a "like" to thread derailing posts that bash IU? That's not a good idea either. Thanks guys! :) ElectricBoogaloo, johnsoniu, Feathery and 4 others 4 3 Quote
JSHoosier Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said: Kentucky offered Calipari a lifetime contract today. UCLA has offered 6 years 48 million. About 2 million less per year than his Kentucky salary and a lot more costly in LA to live. They need to raise that a little bit and maybe he will just take the bait. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners At 8 mil/year he could afford LA. Class of '66 Old Fart 1 Quote
DChoosier Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said: Kentucky offered Calipari a lifetime contract today. UCLA has offered 6 years 48 million. About 2 million less per year than his Kentucky salary and a lot more costly in LA to live. They need to raise that a little bit and maybe he will just take the bait. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Cash Cal perfectly leverages going to UCLA for even more $$$ from two-tooth nation. Hardwood83 1 Quote
ElectricBoogaloo Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, JSHoosier said: At 8 mil/year he could afford LA. On the plus side you don't have to buy socks in LA. Stuhoo 1 Quote
Demo Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said: Horton-Tucker is hiring an agent and entering the draft. He played at Iowa St Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Wow. Seems awfully premature. Other than overpowering smaller guards with his bulk strength and being really young, not sure what there is to be super excited about here. Hope he can maintain eligibility. Quote
8bucks Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Kentucky offered Calipari a lifetime contract today. UCLA has offered 6 years 48 million. About 2 million less per year than his Kentucky salary and a lot more costly in LA to live. They need to raise that a little bit and maybe he will just take the bait.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersWhy even bother offering if you are going to be under? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ElectricBoogaloo 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 58 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said: Kentucky offered Calipari a lifetime contract today. UCLA has offered 6 years 48 million. About 2 million less per year than his Kentucky salary and a lot more costly in LA to live. They need to raise that a little bit and maybe he will just take the bait. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners I saw that earlier as well and then considered what today is so is it true or just an April Fool? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 DePaul and South Florida tonight in game 1 of the cbi finals at 7 on espnu. Joe your favorite got beat. South Florida took out West Virginia Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners HoosierAloha 1 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 After John Calipari signs that lifetime contract with UK, flash forward 35 years. Here's Cal getting ready for the 2054 season. HoosierAloha and Class of '66 Old Fart 1 1 Quote
Joe DeLow Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Kentucky offered Calipari a lifetime contract today. UCLA has offered 6 years 48 million. About 2 million less per year than his Kentucky salary and a lot more costly in LA to live. They need to raise that a little bit and maybe he will just take the bait.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersThey’ll have to give him 10 million a year to leave Kentucky. And Calipari would be an idiot to leave. But I’d like to see it. The West Coast needs another team outside of Gonzaga. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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