College Bball Thread

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Honestly good for them. Things like that are obvious. But I don’t blame them. A top player like that in that situation is why things are the way they are. Wonder if that’s why Capel is leaving Duke.


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Agree. That’s always been my argument about the Langfords. People say they are too good of people to accept money, blah, blah, blah.

They feel and probably do deserve what they are getting. It’s the marketplace.

My point is this is just another example of how families are cashing in “legally”.


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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Tweeted by Eric Crawford and re-tweeted by Rick Bozich within the last hour.

John Karman, University of Louisville spokesman, issued this statement a few minutes ago . . .

[MoyeNeeded]

Agree. That’s always been my argument about the Langfords. People say they are too good of people to accept money, blah, blah, blah.

They feel and probably do deserve what they are getting. It’s the marketplace.

My point is this is just another example of how families are cashing in “legally”.


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So, since you've been driving this bandwagon on the Langford's cashing in on Romeo, let me pose this question to you. If Romeo chooses IU, how much do you think Archie and the program gave them?

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

So, since you've been driving this bandwagon on the Langford's cashing in on Romeo, let me pose this question to you. If Romeo chooses IU, how much do you think Archie and the program gave them?

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Archie? $0.

Adidas or Nike???? The Nike Hoops Summit is a big indicator throughout the years.


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[MoyeNeeded]

Archie? $0.

Adidas or Nike???? The Nike Hoops Summit is a big indicator throughout the years.


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So you are saying it's the shoe company's driving all of this, but yet you and others continously accuse all of these other coaches as being dirty?

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

So you are saying it's the shoe company's driving all of this, but yet you and others continously accuse all of these other coaches as being dirty?

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Oh my goodness.

There are levels. Smallish time stuff from boosters still exists. There are people on campuses from certain schools players can go to get gift cards. 100 dollars to target, tattoos, cars, shoes, clothes, etc....

There is agents money. We’ve seen this detailed in numerous FBI accounts. Multifold.

The AAU scene is a big way to funnel money. From whatever sources choose to indulge.

And yes Shoe companies are clearly heavily involved. We’ve seen this in several known cases as well.

Certain coaches work with these entities and are “dirty” because of it. How involved the coaches and their chopping block assistants get likely shows by the results.

The whole system sucks. I’ve admitted long ago I would be fine if Archie was playing the game. I don’t care. I just want a level playing field.


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[SlamaJamaSisley]

 

 Not sure where to put this but saw this posted yesterday.  Maybe create a Social Media / video thread?  Anyway, love it!

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Interesting piece from ESPN.com on being a burger boy doesn't automatically transcend to NBA stardom.  

During a 20-year stretch from 1993-2012, 42 percent of McDonald's All Americans played fewer than 25 career NBA games.

Less than half -- 43.1 percent -- played more than 175 games, the equivalent of two-plus seasons. Only 39 of 469 players -- 8.3 percent -- made more than one NBA All-Star Game.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22941694/mcdonald-all-american-selections-not-guaranteed-nba-success

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Miles Bridges declaring for the draft and will sign with an agent.  Gone he is!

[Chris007]

Not sure where to put this but former IU great Daryl Thomas passed away from a heart attack. What a great player from the 87 team.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure where to put this but former IU great Daryl Thomas passed away from a heart attack. What a great player from the 87 team.

Very sad news.  Really nice article about him from 2013 including this about his IU recruitment:   “Coach Knight was the only guy to come into my house and sit down with my parents and me,” Thomas said. “He told us that he could not guarantee me any playing time, which caught me a little off guard. But he said that if I came to Indiana, earned my four-year degree, grew as a man, and put in the necessary work on and off the court, I would not have to worry about money again. I loved his honesty.”

And an added piece of trivia, he got the assist for The Shot.

http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2013/01/30/indiana-basketball-legend-settles-in-bolingbrook-finds-calling-coaching-youth/amodtub/

[DChoosier]

9 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Interesting piece from ESPN.com on being a burger boy doesn't automatically transcend to NBA stardom.  

During a 20-year stretch from 1993-2012, 42 percent of McDonald's All Americans played fewer than 25 career NBA games.

Less than half -- 43.1 percent -- played more than 175 games, the equivalent of two-plus seasons. Only 39 of 469 players -- 8.3 percent -- made more than one NBA All-Star Game.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22941694/mcdonald-all-american-selections-not-guaranteed-nba-success

It is interesting but not surprising.  Just look at the number of IU Burger Boys  that did not turn into multi-year NBA players.  Pat Graham, Greg Graham (I do not think he was in league multi-years), Bracy Wright, Luke Recker, Dane Fife, Neil Reed, Damon Bailey, Sherron Wilkerson, Daryl Thomas, etc.

That being said...Recruiting and/or judging talent is a "numbers game" and  43% of Burger Boys playing at least 175 NBA games and 8.3 percent being all stars is massively higher than the odds of a non-burger boy D1 player being in the NBA.

 

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

On the topic of women's basketball this makes 'Creaning' look totally amateurish.  In fairness to Coach Gillespie, she was just hired in April of '17 so 4 of the 5 were not her recruits.

NORMAL — Illinois State women's basketball coach Kristen Gillespie confirmed Wednesday that five Redbird players with remaining eligibility will not return to the team next season.

Zakiya Beckles, Morgan VanHyfte, Deja Turner, Amaria Allen and Ajai Simmons will not have their scholarships renewed, according to the first-year ISU coach.

Simmons was a freshman this past season, while Beckles, VanHyfte, Turner and Allen were sophomores.

VanHyfte sat out the entire season while recovering from knee surgery, while the other four combined for 11 points and 15 rebounds in limited playing time.

“We have great kids. They are all great character kids. We had some tough conversations,” Gillespie said. “They were not taken lightly in our thought process. Our staff took that week after the season and evaluated all aspects of our team. It was our staff’s decision.”

Simmons saw action in 13 games during ISU’s 14-16 season, Allen and Beckles took the floor in 10 and Turner six.

“We want all our kids to have a great experience on the court and in the classroom,” said Gillespie, who led ISU to its best season since 2012-13 in her first year as coach. “They are kids who want to play, and we thought it was in their best interest to play to find another school.

"Our staff is diligently working to find great fits both academically and athletically where they can get great degrees and really have a chance to be on the court and have an impact.”

With only Hannah Green in this year’s senior class and five freshmen in the incoming recruiting class, ISU had been two over the NCAA scholarship limit of 15 for next season.

The 2018-19 Redbirds (at this time) will comprise four seniors (Simone Goods, Viria Livingston, Katrina Beck and Millie Stevens), two juniors (Megan Talbot and Frannie Corrigan), one sophomore (Paige Saylor) and five freshmen (Kayel Newland, Ally Gietzel, Anya Brooks, Mary Crompton and Lexy Koudelka).

That means Gillespie now has three additional scholarships available for next season. The ISU coach does not yet know if she will fill one, two or all three of those openings.

“It all depends on who is available and any transfers,” Gillespie said. “I can’t say yes or no. It’s all about signing that good fit.”

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Lukas Kisunas a 3-star 6'8" from Brewster Academy has de-committed from UConn.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Corey Sanders now a footnote in Ruters basketball history.

[Stuhoo]

31 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Corey Sanders now a footnote in Ruters basketball history.

 

Woof.

 

[Chris007]

Yahoo sports just broke this story

 

Yahoo Sports story: McDonald’s All-American Darius Bazley decommits at Syracuse, becomes first top high school prospect to choose turning professional in the NBA G League.

[BH33]

Wow. Darius Bazley chooses the G-League over Syracuse.

https://sports.yahoo.com/projected-top-10-draft-pick-make-leap-high-school-g-league-193725979.html

 

[VO5]

Pretty happy we didn’t get Bazley now. That would’ve been a tough pill to swallow

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yahoo sports just broke this story

 

Yahoo Sports story: McDonald’s All-American Darius Bazley decommits at Syracuse, becomes first top high school prospect to choose turning professional in the NBA G League.

 

Is that a product of Bazley's age? 

I would have thought the G-League has the same one-and-done policy as their NBA parent.